From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 27 17:58:40 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CA42CA205 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49XJV66z6Xz3Z9P for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: 7w758q8VM1k2FQAqSFAK_FZgSbOjaY7mqeNEOQpcsV9.7Ow3jN8jTD6bbt5x7cD qqYAJtz8wOLOMnKbdkajQVgnrDm1g.9Uk_LGyAxkhtahKerFU._GRvp1nZPSsAf4LmLFio5zGj4R Pb_vj5dsiCWpKQ8RxVD.Z0jRbFr65nb2wM2do9qLX5dROfuXQOlkbTwQbLzj1A9xAJh8J.HJfawG KINAwpO_bFWlDSczUEfqk3C6s0qr.13bsk0DHFnI4xXGhSvqSxojsCDmKUoxvyBgqHoVCjyXBdlo uvKcbfN87Zazd2RCIinQDAXIwN.SE0eoEhS19DkDPZwfufv.Js4bYJrx_k49UT2Hucj23YPy8RSG Xy8RTPfxqKvCTm_IB_NglD4RrjVX8NjivhvEXTRMiu1n3dSOHdKyEMchb.Y2ZqA5f0ICADCr2LV8 EQOlPWWeDiUpf7XHU.MuYLKK_G5abPLdHv0V.Kt65gS54o5beBtTA.xMtqWdlPEqq6wz8oupUY4L YP_njMBDkz7oltdNdgbdzKrvJLjqkem0kBLgT3BxPpI2Agcm1b5XA2GWwxq3W8e4_oAmml7aNGAa Woq_VlGhchi5Wr67x_hFQ6GB.A7t1_DWkaPiAygNMYX1vpcqci1YkyxNpE49Ifj.imQZ4oIz3hYC VKCSDCEf9IjdpTOS5cQaHxB6VVfk8tYHZdS3CN61vFfeDLch25rC4ODwBrej23WQ.A8Nf2lYk3a6 DuiwjGahHfeeufNZ5hOd4vKl2OVwVBsIBiu2yyZVmqgIjFesQDlW2LxUovEo3D871VA4GzE7PxXp H6scC0P8ucg2ZOlfs0nwcP8f67s6c0Vb4aRwsSRxp1uuy2YUG2Zb2EWrnfKDMRs2GLdxKXv11yiA 38coLVVsReTPbhRuBZLsxsnbaJmD3H_ii5e13eQGKqqxkhxxOJbPOBzmD.QMVUXR.TLdwVnMCWuf MW2gFBT2Eo_OPkzWMVp7TE3vjifELWySIIwzBsfjxWakrROY8umSHyN5CSvmbUbsqwlrMARNl7mU 7nPKNuIHPzGT3VMaiKTmcLLyroKlW8nNWeepEUJElGm6xmL541_ZunE7qI_y.QX2gqe3z8b5exn6 j_o6fSsigBdunTkrpi3n9MbBJa_fI293bCLT1B2fkD1UHTQC9HcfGb09yjn2GIACmaaJzcREE5xZ TsNh476L6FtrjVe_qeaTgaMaLOeBP0AfwtlQptwg7bbEJGSEZHbrx.SwRmZP8i06oYkTpEF8Nfxw h3UrmI9NQZZA5R9WnaerGPKOFRXgtoV0M374Q4OKii_zqDQbsrSvHglbrsyOacQdlgM7CWFmSYZw YKSw3dt3zWhROXfhBxZM0KpVaaASWSZYeT.olE2ViMzI6p4ZFKmGhLbZS.A1qK4JJZks8MIyXl88 WJD0- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:36 +0000 Received: by smtp411.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e63257fd8152829bd2250217d3c8425c; Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 19:58:36 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Cert Message-ID: <20200527195836.602a5e85@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <20200527141409.5469f1a3.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49XJV66z6Xz3Z9P X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.63 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.015]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[87.248.110.84:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.08)[-0.076]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.05)[-1.047]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:87.248.110.0/24, country:GB]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[87.248.110.84:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 17:58:40 -0000 On Wed, 27 May 2020 15:36:40 +0000, Brandon helsley wrote: >I don't know anything about computers but got freebsd as a project to >learn as much as possible. If I were to get involved does "teaching >the ropes" at all possibly include learning other things like >networking and possibly and hopefully learning how to port software? Consider to toy with something related to the domains of your interest. You might use a desktop environment that provides a GUI to set up a connection with the Internet. You could replace the GUI by writing your own shell script. This might not make much sense when using DHCP, so you might need to find something else. Shell scripts for the default login shell are a good starting point. If a script works with this shell, you might want to make it portable to run on different shells. When I started with computers I owned a C64 a MIDI interface and a synthesizer. Somebody has written a short Assembler program to receive the synthesizer's sound bank, to save it on a floppy disk and to load and transmit a sound bank. One of the first things I did, was disassembling the program and commenting the assembler commands by using good documentations [1]. Then I expanded the Assembler code to keep two sound banks in RAM and to share sounds between the two sound banks, to get a new sound bank. I also added a feature to rename the sounds. That's not much, but I learned a lot about binary numbers, hex numbers, MIDI software standards, MIDI hardware, computer hardware, interrupts, how to design a program and fortunately programming on the lowest level that time even without a macro assembler. [1] Probably the only important documentation regarding Assembler was "Commodore 64 & 128 Maschinensprache f=C3=BCr Einsteiger" Data Becker