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Date:      Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:23:18 -0800
From:      Gordon Tetlow <gordont@gnf.org>
To:        Mike Makonnen <mtm@identd.net>
Cc:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br>, current@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, Doug Barton <DougB@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: RC NG, ntp and routed
Message-ID:  <20021211002318.GT45512@roark.gnf.org>
In-Reply-To: <20021210225014.GA22267@matrix.identd.net>
References:  <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> <20021210024350.GC16008@matrix.identd.net> <20021210162208.GJ45512@roark.gnf.org> <3DF61DE4.9070205@tcoip.com.br> <20021210225014.GA22267@matrix.identd.net>

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On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:50:14PM -0800, Mike Makonnen wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 03:01:24PM -0200, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> > On another note, I thought the patch a bit excessive. Here, I just adde=
d=20
> > BEFORE: ntpd to routed. OTOH, it seems that patch did a bit more.
>=20
> It's not excessive. It's the correct solution.=20
> Your solution solves your specific problem but it's
> not the right way to go about solving the problem. It's kind of hard to
> explain, you have to work with it for a while to get the hang of it. For
> some things it might be easier _and_ right to say this must come before
> that. In this case; however,  ntpd requires that routing be available as =
a=20
> prerequisite, but there's no real relationship that exists between
> the two that necessitates routed having to know about ntpd. If we were
> to follow your example to its logical conclusion the BEFORE line for
> the routing daemons would have to include _every_ daemon that requires
> network availability. I think in this case it would be more correct to
> have the network daemons REQUIRE the routing daemons. Does that make
> sense?

Ideally, ntpd should require NETWORKING and that should solve all problems.
The real problem is that routed is included with DAEMON, not NETWORKING. I
think that's the real problem and judging that routed is in /sbin, we could
probably move it there without a problem.

-gordon

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