Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:32:15 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installer program for FreeBSD-9.0? Message-ID: <201012081032.oB8AWFhe001184@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: Your message "Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:56:15 %2B0100." <20101208105615.00bc2799.freebsd@edvax.de>
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Polytropon wrote: To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> I added back lost Cc: questions@freebsd.org > On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:46:29 +0100, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> wrote: > > > Allow me a side question, but... what's wrong with ee? (Don't > > > get me wrong, I've been a long-term vi user myself.) > > > > VI has been on BSD since about 1979 or so I recall. > > EE breaks the principle of least surprise. > > But it as an on-top help screen. :-) Each install I do, ee annoys me at inetd.conf. > If I remember correctly, earlier versions of FreeBSD I > did install did have vi as default editor, I don't think so. I recall FreeBSD installer had no screen editor until Jordan looked for one that would fit the install without executable breaking floppy size constraints. But jkh@ was an emacs user by preference, & had more important install issues, so ee was bundled in. I told him very quickly of 2 small vi clones, but too late. With floppy size constraints disappearing, we'll be free to consider options. > even during > installation. The change must have happened sometimes > in the 5.x era. It obsoleted the initial /bin/ed, the > standard editor ("ed is the standard editor"). > > For those who like to use vi, it's still part of the > base installation. At least I hope this won't change, > and also many system utilities pay attention to $EDITOR, > which defaulted to /usr/bin/vi in the past. > > For those who are familiar with FreeBSD, or with UNIX > in general, there is no problem using either vi or ed. > For novice users, ee is definitely the better choice > as it doesn't require them to learn anything prior to > its use, as learning is generally considered "unpleasant" > these days... :-) > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses.
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