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Date:      Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:08:39 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" <freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" <freebsd-mips@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfo=P93pdcXE4W3bRnL66uXwqXYeZkeQKmetjr5NvxjQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <201712310122.vBV1Mjds078793@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <12b36190fcd6918a01d88fd4dbf1a220@megadrive.org> <201712310122.vBV1Mjds078793@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>

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On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:

> > On 2017-12-31 01:46, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
> > >> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT?
> When last I
> > >> > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and
> generally
> > >> > came
> > >> > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be
> deleted w/o
> > >> > loss
> > >> > > of functionality.
> > >> >
> > >> > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about
> > >> > this.  It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has
> > >> > NOT been done yet.  At least that is how I read the persons
> > >> > comments.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and
> > >> we've
> > >> arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email
> > >> asking
> > >> for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my
> > >> interpretation
> > >> is correct.
> > >
> > > Thanks.  Also you might want to ping the router projects folks,
> > > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and
> > > they may have info on which of the implementations work better,
> > > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x
> > > can just be axed.  I know this project is out there someplace,
> > > but can not find a link for it right now.    And I have seen
> > > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months.
> >
> >   "router project folks" ?
> >
> >   Who are you talking about exactly ?
>
> And now I found the other person that just posted updates on the
> zrouter code, it is now a git project, and just updated stuff
> relative to the RT305x stuff one month ago:
> https://github.com/ZRouter/ZRouter/tree/master/socs/Ralink
>
> Project top is at https://github.com/ZRouter


Looks like they'll have to update. Should be pretty easy. I'll ping.

Warner


> > >> Warner
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems
> to
> > >> > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a
> bunch of
> > >> > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips.
> What am
> > >> > I
> > >> > > missing?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Warner
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin <mizhka@gmail.com
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi Warner,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are
> to be
> > >> > kept
> > >> > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance,
> Mikrotik from
> > >> > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM),
> sibyte is
> > >> > to be
> > >> > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while.
> > >> > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g
> router" with
> > >> > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thank you!
> > >> > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your
> > >> > family.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following
> > >> > before the
> > >> > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old)
> > >> > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and
> boards lack
> > >> > > >> memory, very old)
> > >> > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete)
> > >> > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so)
> > >> > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware)
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list
> to
> > >> > arch@.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep
> these older
> > >> > > >> ports
> > >> > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even
> work on
> > >> > these
> > >> > > >> boards anymore.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no
> longer
> > >> > running
> > >> > > >> on
> > >> > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks!
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Warner
> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips
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> > >> > freebsd.org"
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
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> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Rod Grimes
> > >> > rgrimes@freebsd.org
> > >> >
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