Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:20:03 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas <past@ebs.gr> To: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura <nork@FreeBSD.org>, rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports Message-ID: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> In-Reply-To: <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <E14F38B2-B1AF-415F-AE6B-A4BE6330A83D@opensail.org> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com>
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Wes Peters wrote: > > On Oct 15, 2005, at 2:39 AM, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > >> Mark Linimon wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >>> >>>> I don't mind moving the eclipse ports from java to devel, but all >>>> the other eclipse ports are add-ins to eclipse and should probably >>>> be classified along with eclipse. >>>> >>> [adding freebsd-java to the Cc:] >>> For some background, there's been on-and-off discussion on -java >>> about how the java category was never really a good idea. None of >>> the other languages have their own primary category. In particular >>> we've completely failed to train our users to send 'java' PRs only >>> for problems with the JVMs and 'ports' PRs for things in ports/java. >>> >>>> In particular, if eclipse is a 'devel' tool, I don't see how CDT >>>> and phpeclipse are editors. GEF isn't a graphics library, it's a >>>> graphical emulation framework for eclipse, which is (again) a >>>> development tool. >> >> >> Although I agree with everything you say here, I can't see how this >> is an argument against the fact that GEF and CDT most probably belong >> to devel. Unless I'm mistaken and you were not making one? > > > I was making an argument that regardless of where eclipse migrates too, > all of it's little pieces should go right along with it, rather than > getting spread all over the ports system. Since you snipped Mark's reply in your quote, let me clarify that my comments above were directed to Mark and I agree with your point. However I'm not sure whether there has to be a strict rule that every eclipse-foo port should go in the same category. Perhaps the emacs precedent should be followed. See below. Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: > On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:14:59 +0900 (JST) > Norikatsu Shigemura <nork@freebsd.org> wrote: > >>Hi eclipse and eclipse related ports maintainers and users! >> Some time ago, someone suggested that eclipse and eclipse >> related ports should be located on proper categories. I >> think so. So I suggest following repocopy list. Anyone, >> do you have any idea? > > > Oops, I missed. Eclipse is very similar to Emacs: > 1. IDE > Emacs is a one of IDE(or platform). And anyone doesn't > think that it is ONLY a elisp interpreter. But it is > a editor. So I think that it is no problem that Eclipse > may be categolize to editors. > > 2. Extension-able > Emacs has many extention modules like news reader, language > support, games, ... > > 3. Mode > Emacs has many mode for descriptions like C, Perl, Java, ... > > 4. others > It must be that there are other similar feature:-). > > java/eclipse -> editors/eclipse > java/eclipse-EPIC -> editors/eclipse-EPIC > java/eclipse-cdt -> editors/eclipse-cdt > java/eclipse-checkstyle -> devel/eclipse-checkstyle > java/eclipse-clay-core -> databases/eclipse-clay-core > java/eclipse-devel -> editors/eclipse-devel > java/eclipse-emf -> editors/eclipse-emf > java/eclipse-examples -> devel/eclipse-examples > java/eclipse-gef -> editors/eclipse-gef > java/eclipse-gef-examples -> editors/eclipse-gef-examples > java/eclipse-langpack -> editors/eclipse-langpack > java/eclipse-log4e -> editors/eclipse-log4e > java/eclipse-lomboz -> devel/eclipse-lomboz > java/eclipse-pmd -> devel/eclipse-pmd > java/eclipse-quantum -> databases/eclipse-quantum > java/eclipse-sqlexplorer -> databases/eclipse-sqlexplorer > java/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat -> www/eclipse-sysdeo-tomcat > java/eclipse-uml -> editors/eclipse-uml > java/eclipse-v4all -> editors/eclipse-v4all > java/eclipse-vep -> editors/eclipse-vep > java/eclipse-vep-examples -> editors/eclipse-vep-examples > java/eclipse-viplugin -> editors/eclipse-viplugin > java/eclipseme -> devel/eclipseme > java/phpeclipse -> editors/phpeclipse This sounds fine, too. Cheers, Panagiotis
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