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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:07:07 -0400, Ernie Luzar stated: >Matthias Gamsjager wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 15:16, Jerry wrote: >> =20 >>> With the soon-to-be release of version 13 of FreeBSD and the EOL of >>> FreeBSD 11.x, I will need to invest in a new OS. Due to FreeBSD=C3=A2= =E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s >>> unfortunate inability to squash bug >>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666, l am left >>> with no choice but to seek out a new OS. I need a bare-bones system >>> that can run a mail server, Postfix with Dovecot, and a few other >>> utilities. >>> =20 > This sounds like only 2 things. 1. Something in your hardware tower > is=20 >falling. 2. The way you updated from one release to another something=20 >went wrong. > >I would start with a clean build of release 12.2 using a disk drive on >a usb stick. See if problem is still there. If so you have hardware=20 >problem and no amount of PR is going to fix that. There was nothing failing; it was a brand new PC. I have done the clean install with both 12.0 and 12.2, with the same results. If you actually read through the bug report, you would see that I am not the only one with this problem. Apparently, someone reported that you could rebuild the kernel and remove USB3 or something like that, but I have neither the time nor inclination to do that, assuming I could do it. Versions 10 & 11 work fine. This is something that FreeBSD did that screwed up the works. Dell is aware of the problem but will do nothing to attempt to create a work around for it. They claim it is working as specified and every other OS, with the exception of FreeBSD works correctly on that system. I am not going to spend more money to get a system that is happy with FreeBSD. I buy what I want and then get an OS that is capable of operating on it, not the other way around. In any case, I am thinking of either Fedora, Debian or Arch Linux. I was just looking for recommendations from anyone who has used those systems. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/oc0mlqvzh52RP9m1Eq6vDL. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEELeCiu2K+9VmEYYgTgHBP8gv9FXcFAmBU2UEACgkQgHBP8gv9 FXfENAv/WW10SF6xm0+PilDtjLHnGoRO9BgXUQfM6uOJ5MfjQcPath4A2+iXdQtl 3RfTXZNU5cmIRuXY8YFxoPSszIe9RkZAw5jqOJXDRKAPL5zHL2rA2Qjd7GBJ84lK abv9yb1GEeTf3DfjTBmgNkITD+Lw02HZLFqx0pbI6abkQkWBgVRHPEJbBi2tbFt6 wR7qTlfIMINHkTqbbTxhFbOcxqwQHEWegPKTlrceDDxxWac0mzr5fWEUs131QRHe lEFZ5wHRLDY5GP2tl4NMrnR5gC+pQA7jXJKjPloUQcYUoGTO/hn+km5kXirkCHgR d6CvESncJdkwJ7cOW65UkY39YB6zzqd6G2/Ryh/8+IzEsJI0K3RlZPF8iBn2Hv27 jpw1KdPZUw+U+sumGZPjS1Ksp8SKmE+y5/zl9Skzt6Lnm9ACFH70t8XDokNxJPCr QSaWqCZDWD2tep38N+NAH20tYJT3FP0vNWhpYkyaz7OLM5eeSFuaV8jRpkPphXlY IQByW5er =eJ2W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/oc0mlqvzh52RP9m1Eq6vDL.--