From owner-svn-src-projects@freebsd.org Thu Feb 4 21:47:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-projects@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F79A9CCA6 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 21:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC05F5; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 21:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D858F11C7; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 21:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AF31981E; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 21:47:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id yL_p5KtNkgf5; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 21:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r295280 - projects/release-pkg/release/packages DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com CB15B19816 To: Nathan Whitehorn , Glen Barber , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-projects@freebsd.org References: <201602042120.u14LKQ2b026571@repo.freebsd.org> <56B3C34B.1080501@freebsd.org> From: Bryan Drewery Openpgp: id=F9173CB2C3AAEA7A5C8A1F0935D771BB6E4697CF; url=http://www.shatow.net/bryan/bryan2.asc Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <56B3C6E4.60907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:47:16 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56B3C34B.1080501@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W9hdjoaxOiFHdgNmmWxufgbOwcbHM1oPW" X-BeenThere: svn-src-projects@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the src " projects" tree" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:47:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --W9hdjoaxOiFHdgNmmWxufgbOwcbHM1oPW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/4/2016 1:31 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 02/04/16 13:20, Glen Barber wrote: >> Author: gjb >> Date: Thu Feb 4 21:20:26 2016 >> New Revision: 295280 >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/295280 >> >> Log: >> Add package files for libc, libedit, librtld_db, and libthr. >> libedit is needed for sh(1), which if updated before runtime, >> can cause undesirable behavior. >> For the rest, the installation order needs to be: >> 1) librtld >> 2) libc >> 3) libthr >> The dependency listing and shilbs_required entries ensure this >> behavior. >=20 > Are we really planning to split up the system at this level of > granularity? That seems like a huge regression from one of the main > selling points of FreeBSD: that it is *not* split up at this level and > forms a unified system. > -Nathan >=20 You are jumping to conclusions. Splitting how files are *tracked in metadata* changes nothing about what we are delivering in a release. What level does freebsd-update track the system? It seems it is per-file.= This constant idea that splitting files in metadata is bad is hindering progress greatly. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --W9hdjoaxOiFHdgNmmWxufgbOwcbHM1oPW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWs8bkAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPe0AH/3zQlhCisXX6cboLjW/HUDXy 7JXOfJxCXq7I3j/QqqzKFYEYhFlGpCPPbIUXgI71Aoxm01MvH7ocMQhKj6v2gEbh vWMd/PK5YHzyWV5oipxGuqCIjkgGImoMlYsHolz+edNGIR8NnyPASsSGZgduJa+C uHBfvBLzg9hDHmeELvw+h43rJHWVf3l/QKaxWUcEII51tL0uOkic+aOx10CFtD9Y /AoE+vtAkho18O3HwTPhUBMa3gv1LEfr5qawjynwUCLiEYeyI9B2wknxG1OYe6Vy bLs2gk0N/7Bon3C0IYz8TxOu3IpyS0K/SbiCB+nsdZphwHOz9vpPLRkmL+OCdCk= =O/YS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W9hdjoaxOiFHdgNmmWxufgbOwcbHM1oPW--