From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Mon Dec 12 11:37:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0795CC72C4C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 753C8101C; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (ezra.dcm1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id uBCBbS9V098988; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:37:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2001:a60:f0bb:1::3:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7BE9FFB; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:37:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <584E8BF7.6070908@omnilan.de> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:37:27 +0100 From: Harry Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Pinter CC: Pedro Giffuni , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MFC reminder emails (was Re: svn commit: r308296 - head/sys/cam/scsi) References: <201611041656.uA4GuaZF028619@repo.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]); Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:37:28 +0100 (CET) X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: mx0.gentlemail.de; Sender-ip: ; Sender-helo: mh0.gentlemail.de; ) X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:37:33 -0000 Bezüglich Oliver Pinter's Nachricht vom 12.12.2016 00:57 (localtime): > Hi Pedro! > > On 12/11/16, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> Hello; >> On 12/10/16 19:58, Oliver Pinter wrote: >> ... >> >>>> Reviewed by: ken >>>> Obtained from: Netflix >>>> MFC after: 3 days >>> Hi Scott! >>> >>> What's the status of the MFCs to 10-STABLE and 11-STABLE? >>> >> Not meaning to pester anyone but given that you (and others) tend >> to remind about MFCs you would like to see done ... >> >> 1) Committers get an email reminder in due time when they add an >> MFC tag to the commit log. >> >> 2) MFCs are advisory: committer may change mind about them or >> otherwise not do them due to any reason. >> >> 3) It's still not official, but we have an additional service >> that lets committers verify the state of MFC requests if they wish. >> >> Given the points above, which you may not have been aware of, >> it may be seen as rude to post additional reminders. Thanks for explaining, and apologies, since I've been one of those others too. But sometimes I got back »Thanks for the reminder, forgt/lost a/b/c...« So I hope those adressees for whom point 2) was the case will just ignore it and don't feel disordered. Since people asking about a MFC status are aware of the committ, the reminder is meant to support committers and the release quality, otherwise we could silently adopt ourselfs... I'm completely unsure if these reminders are welcome or not. Of course, it's committer-dependent to some degree, but what's the "official" position: Being quiet or asking if chances are good that it got lost? Shall we strip svn-src-all@ ? Thanks, -harry