Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:54:44 -0600 From: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> To: "sthaug@nethelp.no" <sthaug@nethelp.no> Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "mav@freebsd.org" <mav@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Switch from legacy ata(4) to CAM-based ATA Message-ID: <99424DD0-6ED9-42E8-A3D2-0376D444109A@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <20110423.183641.41662287.sthaug@nethelp.no> References: <20110420203754.GM85668@acme.spoerlein.net> <4DAF46F8.9040004@FreeBSD.org> <BCE89DC7-116D-48E1-BD86-DF986062B0CC@samsco.org> <20110423.183641.41662287.sthaug@nethelp.no>
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On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:36 AM, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: >> In other words, "ada" isn't the problem here, it's that we all still = think in terms of the 1980's when systems didn't autoconfigure and = device names were important hints to system functionality. That time = has thankfully passed, and it's time for us to catch up. >=20 > If this is important for disk type devices, why not also for network > type devices? Why don't we all use ethX like Linux does? I'd really like to see that as well, but there were strong disagreements = when I floated the idea 4 years ago. > Personally I *like* knowing something about the underlying type of > device and technology - but I can definitely see both sides of the > argument here. >=20 Indeed, there's nothing wrong with preserving access to the system = details for the use of administration, troubleshooting, and even mere = geeky knowledge. This isn't about taking power away from the = superusers, it's about making the system smart enough to handle common = situations reliably. I'm sure that there some among us who pine for the = good old days of manually configuring and linking a kernel, but it's = hard to argue that an auto-configured kernel isn't pretty darn = convenient most of the time. What I'm proposing is just the next step = in that process. Scott=
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