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Date:      Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:32:33 -0700
From:      "Derek C." <coffee@blarg.net>
To:        "Mike Porter" <mike.porter@xrxgsn.com>, "Robert Watson" <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, <arch@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to edit , inetd.conf
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20010731223153.03b3e370@mail.blarg.net>
In-Reply-To: <00e501c11a45$f2165520$0300a8c0@laptop>

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So did I...

And nobody said anything about disabling SSH... the wording of the email 
confused me at first, but the services in question were FTP and Telnetd.

Derek

At 09:53 PM 7/31/2001, Mike Porter wrote:
>Somehow I missed the original of this....
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Derek C. <coffee@blarg.net>
>To: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>; arch@FreeBSD.ORG <arch@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Patch to modify default inetd.conf, have sysinstall prompt to
>edit , inetd.conf
>
>
> >Well, I am a fairly typical uninformed/idiot user, who is getting better
> >every day, and I say the documentation is great, and the patch is a great
>idea.
> >
> >Derek
> >
> >At 08:48 PM 7/31/2001, Robert Watson wrote:
> >
>[snip the first introductory bits]
> >
> >>needs.  In particular in light of the recent ftpd and telnetd security
> >>bugs, it seems like 4.4-RELEASE would be a good time to move to a more
> >>conservative default of having both of these services disabled in the base
> >>install, as both NetBSD and OpenBSD have moved to doing.
> >>
>Seems like a pretty good idea to me; although it seems to me that perhaps
>disabling SSH by default is overkill; certainly I think that it is a good
>idea to disable telnet by default...nearly eveyone who NEEDS it should be
>able to add it easily enough...however...
>
>
>[...]
> >>concerning enabling and disabling services.  It also modifies sysinstall
> >>such that enabling inetd in the post-install configuration describes inetd
> >>more than previously, mentions the risks, and then also presents the
> >>opportunity to edit inetd.conf if inetd is enabled.  Also, during the
> >>normal install, the user is automatically prompted to enable or disable
> >>inetd in much the same style as the NFS server.
> >>
>[snip the details]
>It also seems to me that a better solution than just editing inetd.conf
>(especially for novice users) would be a sub-menu, similar to the one used
>to enable inetd and NFS and the like, allowing a user to check which
>services are desired.  Of course, I am not familiar with sysinstall
>internals, so I don't know how much work this really entails, its just an
>idea.
>
>mike


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