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Date:      Sat, 26 Mar 2016 20:01:55 +0100
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
To:        Michael Butler <imb@protected-networks.net>
Cc:        "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: CURRENT slow and shaky network stability
Message-ID:  <20160326200155.4df77b12.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
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Am Sat, 26 Mar 2016 13:28:16 -0400
Michael Butler <imb@protected-networks.net> schrieb:

> -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.

What is the gain then?

If this "feature" results in corrupted ssh sessions, slow console sessions =
or even worse:
prolongued compilation times, then it is a big fail!

>=20
> Compare inactive memory to swap in this example ..
>=20
> 110 processes: 1 running, 108 sleeping, 1 zombie
> CPU:  1.2% user,  0.0% nice,  4.3% system,  0.0% interrupt, 94.5% idle
> Mem: 474M Active, 1609M Inact, 764M Wired, 281M Buf, 119M Free
> Swap: 4096M Total, 917M Used, 3178M Free, 22% Inuse
>=20
>   PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE   C   TIME    WCPU
> COMMAND
>  1819 imb              1  28    0   213M 11284K select  1 147:44   5.97%
> gkrellm
> 59238 imb             43  20    0   980M   424M select  0  10:07   1.92%
> firefox
>=20
>  .. it shouldn't start randomly swapping out processes because they're
> used infrequently when there's more than enough RAM to spare ..
>=20
> It also shows up when trying to reboot .. on all of my gear, 90 seconds
> of "fail-safe" time-out is no longer enough when a good proportion of
> daemons have been dropped onto swap and must be brought back in to flush
> their data segments :-(
>=20
> 	Michael


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