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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w202sm1588584qkb.89.2020.02.14.08.33.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48JzTz0BDNz1X4L for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:33:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:33:58 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200214113358.225faf5e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20200214150126.GA1219@x1> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214150126.GA1219@x1> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.3) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48JzV15Vzxz3Lbs X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=IGuY2CkB; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.30)[ip: (-2.86), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.90), asn: 15169(-1.68), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:34:02 -0000 On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:01:40 +0100, Julien Cigar stated: >Of course nothing is perfect (12.0-RELEASE was a very problematic >release for us due to the various iflib issues and PR 236220), but from >experience FreeBSD is a lot easier to manage and maintain than any of >the Linux-es I used, especially if you deploy everything with (VNET) >jails, ZFS, and a custom poudriere repository (branch based) 12.0-RELEASE is more than slightly problematic on my machine. I cannot even get it to run correctly. SEE: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237666 -- Jerry