From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 4 10:41:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF2216A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:41:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E893043D2D for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:41:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CEQHp-0007qd-00; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:41:45 +0200 Received: from [217.83.8.81] (helo=donor.laier.local) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1CEQHo-0004vX-00; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:41:45 +0200 From: Max Laier To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:40:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1688.1096884897@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <1688.1096884897@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1691403.cshXRPRAU9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410041241.04608.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:61c499deaeeba3ba5be80f48ecc83056 cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: /sys/conf is getting unwieldy to handle... X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:41:46 -0000 --nextPart1691403.cshXRPRAU9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 04 October 2004 12:14, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I think somebody=AE should start to look at our kernel configuration > mechanism now so that we can have something better for 6.x. > > I am sure that there are 257 ways to do this much better and that > at least 5% of these solutions involve XML and 10% involves java > and graphical userinterfaces, and at least a 24 bit colorspace for > the bikeshed. > > I think a lot can be done with some very simple changes, and I think > more userfriendly tools can be written on top of any sensible "run > this ascii-file through this too" model, so lets try to leave the > rocket science out of this for now and just improve on the scheme > we all know and love. Well spoken! > I would love to see a dedicated band of merry men go off in a corner > somewhere and "just do it"=AE Any takers ? Seem like a good EuroBSDCon BoF/Devsummit topic etc. ... > Here is a strawman to think about: [...] Yes, this would create something I liked to call "meta-options" in former=20 discussions on this topic. Yet, there is a bit more to it. It would (imo) also involve some thinking=20 about the way we build modules (there is a TODO item "revised kld build=20 infrastructure" that seems to cover that part) and maybe also a bit of=20 reorganization/coalescence of the opt_*.h include mechanism ... I have thought about this a bit already, so I'd like to help (if my babblin= g=20 makes sense to you ;) =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart1691403.cshXRPRAU9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBYSjAXyyEoT62BG0RAnepAJsEXH9KJDKsJbkR6BKTQv/T7c8OjACfeLLP SKJB9h6WxwnOmUp4cEAJ4tE= =5L1O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1691403.cshXRPRAU9--