From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 20:40:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2941106568B for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19988FC26 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20681 invoked by uid 0); 22 Sep 2009 20:40:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (24.42.224.110) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 22 Sep 2009 20:40:41 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 84B162841F; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:40:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:40:41 -0500 From: David Kelly To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090922204041.GA47007@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <8DFC1B25-8AED-4CD1-ABDC-7A9DDF45C362@olivent.com> <20090922185317.GA86411@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20090922190821.GD46344@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: network freebsd computers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:40:46 -0000 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 03:29:43PM -0400, Carmel NY wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:08:21 -0500 > David Kelly wrote: > > [snip] > > > It would, but he's approaching the problem with Windows-colored > > glasses. > > I am not sure what that is even suppose to mean, so I'll just ignore it. It means you are trying to make Unix conform to your Windows habits. For security, simplicity, and security (yes, "security" twice) we are not in the habit of wantonly sharing our file systems. Historically remote login has been difficult on Windows systems while file(system) sharing has been relatively easy so Windows Administrators learned how to manage systems by pushing files around on shared file systems. I'm saying it sounds an awful lot like that is what you are trying to do. If so then you will quickly find Unix doesn't like to let root (Administrator) easily cross system boundaries. Meanwhile others have listed a multitude of utilities for shooting files across multiple machines, including simple terminal login and more advanced GUI X11 login. None of which use shared file systems as their core connection method. Expanding on what I said earlier, if "joe" is userid 1001, do not reuse 1001 on any other machine unless "joe" has an account there too. Unix file ownership is by userid and groupid *numbers*. The number doesn't have to be defined in the password or group databases to be used. Most file sync and archivers only use the numbers. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.