From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 16 11:49:04 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7122EC4AE for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CZS5q3WKdz3H35 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.239.36]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mt7Pt-1kPa5c0Zsf-00tQNB; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:49:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:49:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting multiple BSDs. 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I can't read them as anything rational: look like hexadecimal codes. > > > Those look correct here -- ascii-like debian logo -- even in console (vt with > > terminus font), are you using non-UTF-8-capable MUA yet? > > Now with a less-outdated version of NetBSD and less-outdated version of Xorg, I get better, though I still don't see any fancy Debian logo: looks like > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org > ⠈ > which is not what I'm running now. Looks like there is still more than one 2-to-1 byte mangling involved, possibly crossing encoding borders. If you have further questions, ask Senior Lampampatilde-Ampamsuppez who lives in Schlatildefracterstrasse, Berlin... ;-) The original message declares UTF-8 correctly, and also _uses_ UFT-8 encoded symbols in the signature. The following drawing should be visible: ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ ⠈⠳⣄ If there is some back-and-forth nonsense ISO-8859-1 <-> UTF-8 and maybe some HTML guessing (some web mailers tend to do this in order to "help"), useless multibyte sequences appear that do no longer correspond to the originally used symbols. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...