From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 6 15:50:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF3816A41C for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:50:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yuval_levy@yahoo.com) Received: from web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F34A543D53 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yuval_levy@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24405 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2005 15:49:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BG8O8OBjdlrhvN3f18mFf7ZeFNyZu2Edk92A6HCeTJHBuSKGxt1N+rVuYV2lB4TGcjYCGDd3rcz6q2iBsO/IPytZKarCw1BGVplCwwvejmvy/hthdnZrA0v49+pI3tFAzGb0yGjbFZ8B860lVy/NfXMTM01cV/Y2h1XLIGD2I6M= ; Message-ID: <20050606154959.24403.qmail@web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.134.226.245] by web31006.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:49:59 PDT Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT) From: yuval levy To: Matthias Buelow In-Reply-To: <42A4699F.8070209@incubus.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystems not properly unmounted [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:50:01 -0000 --- Matthias Buelow wrote: > Yuval Levy wrote: > > > Usability > > is a count on which FreeBSD has weaknesses, > > especially in the eye of the > > large segment of users who value a GUI, i.e. those > > coming from the Windows world. > > Maybe, but I only speak for myself, and not for that > large segment of > users who value a [Windows-style] GUI. It is the market share that speaks for the silent majority who values and uses such a GUI. > I always found X11 more useful > than Windows, if only because I could resize dialog > windows, something > that still doesn't seem to have made it into many > Windows programs. Agree that Windows has a lot of nuisances, besides, it always sticks in my face and interrupts me. Unfortunately most GUIs do, making multitasking a pain. I personally find the differences between the existing GUIs less important than the applications that run on them. I take whatever there is for a default, as 90% of the users do (according to usability lab results). So I use Windows, I use Gnome (at least I think this is the default of Fedora Core 3) and I sometimes use KDE (default of Knoppix?). I have heard of X11 but I do not know much about it. Is it the underlying layer to both Gnome and KDE? No offense meant, but the further away from the application, the least I know. I am a dummy by choice. Yuv __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com