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Date:      Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:08:15 -0500
From:      "Ben" <ben@cahostnet.com>
To:        "Christopher Farley" <chris@northernbrewer.com>
Cc:        <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD and Linux (More Questions!)
Message-ID:  <02f201c0ab0e$a5cf6c20$6102a00a@nhqadmin17>
References:  <02c401c0ab03$fd58ca00$6102a00a@nhqadmin17> <20010312094812.F78116@northernbrewer.com>

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I currently have a scsi burner, and yes I'll like to burn both data
and audio.  I don't mind doing things the hard way to learn but I
will also like to have the option to automate things.  I like the
fact that BSD gives you the ability to perform upgrades and to easily
install the ports.  Sometimes doing things in Red Hat confuses the
heck out of me but like I said they support pretty much everything.
I tried installing the Linux support for BSD and it always failed
during the installation process.  I've seen allot of posting on video
card problems and X problem in this list.  But everyone gets those.
It's more of a newbie problem than anything.  I guess the least I
could do is to just try it and see if I like it.  It won't hurt
anything.  I will just like to be able to learn whatever I use and
apply it at work in the real world.  This is my automate goal.  I
heard some friends say they liked slackware better than Red Hat but
slackware just doesn't see that friendly to me.  Friendly meaning
"manageability" of the system.  I don't need all point and click or
I'll stay with Windows but I need a easy to use operating system.

Thanks for the info.  Right now this is my choice from first to last.
 I will wait for more input

Slackware
FreeBSD
Red Hat

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Farley" <chris@northernbrewer.com>
To: "Ben" <ben@cahostnet.com>
Cc: <questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux (More Questions!)


> Ben (ben@cahostnet.com) wrote:
>
> > These are my requirements for my desktop.  First of all let me
> > say that this will be used for desktop purposes so It's important
> > the operating system of choice is user friendly and supports the
> > desktop hardware well, such as cd burners, sound cards and
> > others.  Here they are:
> >
> > Large hardware support
>
> Because of its larger user base, Linux has better hardware support,
> however FreeBSD's hardware support may be sufficient for your
> needs.
>
> You specifically mentioned cd burners and sound cards. My
> experience is this: on FreeBSD you will be better off with SCSI cd
> drives,
> particularly if you want to do disk-at-once copying. Most sound
> cards are supported, however there has been occasional griping
> about FreeBSD's sound card support, particularly regarding
> recording audio.
>
> > Large application support
>
> Everything I have ever desired or needed has been available in the
> ports collection. FreeBSD's linux binary compatibility is
> excellent.
>
> > Easy configuration and installation of OS and apps
>
> I think there is a big difference here. When I've talked to Linux
> users, sometimes it seems like they are not even using a Unix-like
> operating system. I believe this is because Linux's 'user friendly'
> configuration utilities obscure them from the realities of managing
> their system.  I think you can configure some Linux-distros without
> ever using a
> text-editor, for example.
>
> Linux may be more 'user friendly' in this regard, however you will
> probably find vast differences depending on the particular distro.
> The FreeBSD learning curve is probably higher, but the effort you
> spend learning will be applicable universally.
>
> > FTP installs if possible
>
> FreeBSD does this better than any OS I have installed. If your idea
> of an FTP install is getting the ISO CD image, then Linux has this
> capability, as well.
>
> Debian has a true FTP install, but Debian's installation program is
> notoriously unfriendly.
>
> > Ports collections for easy upgrades and installations
>
> The FreeBSD ports collection doesn't manage upgrades very well,
> compared to Debian's apt-get mechanism.
>
> However, Linux's lack of a 'make world'-type mechanism to upgrade
> the operating system has always troubled me. I really like the idea
> that on FreeBSD, you can sync your source tree and bring your OS
> up-to date, even between major releases.
>
> Linux upgrades usually require waiting for the latest release.
> Between releases, you may need to upgrade specific binary files if
> there is a security problem.
>
> --
> Christopher Farley
> www.northernbrewer.com

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