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Date:      Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:27:33 -0500 (EST)
From:      Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>
To:        ob1k <ob1k@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Marco Molteni <molter@tin.it>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: disapointing security architecture
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.990310221623.27517K-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9903102045370.294-100000@Cupcake.mindspring.com>

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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, ob1k wrote:

> Im sorry, but comments like:
>  3. disappointed about FreeBSD security architecture? Fix it.
> are such a copout and a really lame way of reasoning.

Ah, but recall that in the minds of many free software authors, requests
for features without code are also a copout :-).

This is not to say that I condone a brisk "do it yourself" answer, but it
is presumably important to recognize that all developer hours are donated,
and precious few are available.  Anyone with the insight to provide a
cogent analysis of the shortcomings of the current in-between-state of the
authentication system probably has the insight (although possibly not the
time) to provide at least rudimentary fixes.

I would say that the comment was poorly expressed in that it was less of
an invitation and more of an accusation; I would say that the reasoning
realistic, albeit unfortunately the case.  I do not think it is the case
that the majority of FreeBSD developers want to be unhelpful or fail to
comply with the desire for a better product; it is more that they have a
realistic (and now possibly bitter) familiarity with the lack of available
resources :-).

  Robert N Watson 

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