From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:58:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC211065730 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout2.freenet.de (mout2.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188B18FC17 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #19) id 1K0htQ-00019M-52; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:58:00 +0200 Received: from r9ea7.r.pppool.de ([89.54.158.167]:39991 helo=peedub.jennejohn.org) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1K0htP-0002Eq-F8; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:58:00 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:57:57 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080526205757.6e49abba@peedub.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <483AF194.2020002@digiware.nl> References: <20080524111715.T64552@fledge.watson.org> <1211640498.1510.8.camel@localhost> <20080524165519.K9809@fledge.watson.org> <20080525105726.O39741@fledge.watson.org> <5D4AF8D7-88A7-4197-A0FE-7CA992EE5F96@FreeBSD.org> <20080526163844.GA37636@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <483AF194.2020002@digiware.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Willem Jan Withagen , Steve Kargl Subject: Re: HEAD UP: non-MPSAFE network drivers to be disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:58:02 -0000 On Mon, 26 May 2008 19:21:24 +0200 Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 05:34:09AM -0700, Ade Lovett wrote: > >> idiosyncratic situations (yes, ahc(4), I'm looking at you) for 5+ > > > > What's the problem with ahc(4)? My ahc controller is one of > > the most reliable pieces of hardware that I've purchased. > > It's also the only interface available to my external DLT > > tape drive. > > Not to forget the large amount of embedded ahc's that got implemented on > all kinds of serverbords. I still have quite a large set of customers > with such ASUS boards I sold to them over the years. Up 'till now I've > been able to keep 'm running with the pace of FreeBSD. > Removing this driver would "leave them behind". > > I can force them to upgrade, but thus far there has been little reason > for that (hardware wise). > [pruned the over-zealous CCs] Well, one problem with ahc is that it doesn't play nicely with >= 4GB of memory on AMD64. I have ahc and 4GB of memory and have to set hw.physmem="3500m" in /boot/loader.conf to keep it from dumping its cookies at boot time. Otherwise I'm more than happy with my 29160N. --- Gary Jennejohn