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Date:      Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:21:05 -0500
From:      David Kelly <dkelly@HiWAAY.net>
To:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Why top-posting is bad
Message-ID:  <9FDC1E28-F1E2-11D8-AE79-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net>
In-Reply-To: <007001c485ec$9d3bbb10$3300a8c0@verizon.net>
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Providing an introduction to a forwarded message is about the only  
acceptable time to top-post, as I am doing right now.

My pet peeve against top-posters is wonderfully demonstrated this  
morning when (top-poster) (my edit) failed to read very much of a  
message he replied to.

First, he didn't read enough to know that he was replying to the wrong  
person. Is not I who is having issues with loss of HD space.

Second he didn't read enough to see that tunefs(8) was already listed  
as a means of reducing the reserved filesystem space.

Third he didn't read my .signature.

Conclusion: Top-posters don't bother to read.


On Aug 19, 2004, at 8:00 AM, (top-poster) wrote:

> Actually, this is about right.  Sorry...  Though people more expert  
> than I
> can suggest cmd parameters which will recover a portion of this  
> overhead for
> you.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Kelly" <dkelly@HiWAAY.net>
> To: (not the top-poster)
> Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Large Disks lose loads of diskspace
>
>
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2004, at 6:17 AM, (not the top-poster) wrote:
>>
>>> I installed 2 new 200gb harddrives lately. Both show up in bios as
>>> 200gb, on boot they are shown as 190gb (probably the 1000->1024
>>> conversion), but when I create a filesystem they are only 180gb.
>>> Now, I can live with a 20gb loss, but when I check the disks free
>>> space, they have only 166gb free with 0 gb used. Could be me, but I
>>> find 34gb a bit excessive. I hope anyone has a clue as to what I'm
>>> doing wrong.
>>>
>>> Hope someone knows what is going on.
>>
>> newfs(1) says:
>>
>>>      -m free-space
>>>              The percentage of space reserved from normal users; the
>>> minimum
>>>              free space threshold.  The default value used is defined
>>> by
>>>              MINFREE from <ufs/ffs/fs.h>, currently 8%.  See  
>>> tunefs(8)
>>> for
>>>              more details on how to set this option.
>>
>> 180 - 8% = 165.6
>>
>> --
>> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
>> ====================================================================== 
>> ==
>> Top posters will not be shown the honor of a reply.
>>
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--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
========================================================================
Top posters will not be shown the honor of a reply.



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