From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 3 11:32:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA18321 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:32:39 -0800 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18314 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:32:36 -0800 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HYDAL9RJ0W0068QE@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Sun, 03 Dec 1995 11:32:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 11:32:42 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Re: USR modem setup [ How to setup auto answer ] To: jgoerzen@complete.org Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HYDAL9SBYQ0068QE@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"jgoerzen@complete.org" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org",ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk John Goerzen writes: >> PS How do you ctl-alt-del from FreeBSD? >NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use ctrl-alt-del from within any OS other than DOS. >That includes FreeBSD. NEVER use ctrl-alt-del from within FreeBSD. >To reboot, login as root and type: >shutdown -r now >Rebooting with ctrl-alt-del can corrupt your filesystems and cause data >loss. Sorry for yelling, but this is a very important point. Yes, but if shutdown is unavailable....the system is locked up....perhaps ctrl-alt-del is a better option than turning off the power altogether or hitting the reset button. "Back channel" communications among new users (new to Unix & FreeBSD) suggest that quite a few of us have depended on ctrl-alt-del until we figured out shutdown, and with no ill effects. As someone wrote to me, "You don't even have to be logged in as root!" It would be interesting to have a more complete explanation of the problem and the options here, as well as the admonition "Don't log in as root, use su." Why not? A user id of 0 results in either case. Annelise