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Date:      Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:04:05 +0000
From:      Daniel Siechniewicz <daniel@nulldowntime.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays?
Message-ID:  <CA%2BSnNS_Tmus_zbQTYnWQ6W1LtQUtzyRsCm7SJJZaiDXDYM=bag@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi,

Just a little stick in this anthill:

- I've seen a few people volunteering, but so far the reaction seems
to be: "oh, yeah, well, ah, cool". I'd expect, with all the talk about
how much they are needed, that they will be "snatched" immediately and
coerced into doing unspeakable things (like processing a 100 PRs a
day, ensuring high quality testing and all that :) ). I certainly hope
this is happening behind the scenes.

- Tools are abundant, focusing on github vs. aegis is really just
highjacking this thread. If there's a need for new tool set I suppose
people who actually USE the existing ones for ports will be able to
identify what's needed FOR THEM. Some form of democracy, I guess.

- Yes, fresh look is very important, but you can't tear down something
without knowing the consequences, which pretty much means not without
in depth knowledge of the existing mechanisms. Not everyone in this
discussion seems to be coming from this perspective.

- Absolutely, automate the shit out of the process, get rid of stale
PR's (and ports, for that matter), "retire" inactive commiters, etc.
But first and foremost, get some stats out of the system, there's no
point throwing numbers like 50% this, 80% that, if you simply don't
know. Measure, analyze and focus your attention where it gets the most
benefits.

- And stop petty squabbles.


Regards,
Daniel



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