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Date:      Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:56:52 +0000 (GMT)
From:      "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>
To:        Paul Hart <hart@iserver.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: General securiy of vanilla install WAS [FreeSSH]
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910182148580.82193-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910180940240.50020-100000@anchovy.orem.iserver.com>

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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Paul Hart wrote:

>I feel that the vanilla install strikes a delicate balance between
>security and usability.  Inexperienced users will have enough running to
>see how FreeBSD works without undue exposure, and experienced users have
>only a few things to turn off if they're worried about them.

I agree with Paul. Compare FreeBSD's approach to OpenBSD and Redhat.
OpenBSD is nothing on by default. Redhat has the entire free software
universe on by default. I happen to like FreeBSD's approach but so what?

In all three cases, it takes me a few minutes to return each system to the
correct configuration for my use.

Certainly the number of services running can be used as a first look
metric when securing a system. How many are turned on by default from "out
of the box" is pretty meaningless. :%s/^/# / can secure inetd on any box
really quick. :)

Thank You, 	| http://students.washington.edu/jcwells
Jason Wells	| "Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither
		| freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin



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