From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 20:31:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88843106568D for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEF98FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2DB6D44C; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0B166844CC; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:31:48 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Mel Flynn References: <20091111101207.GF64905@hoeg.nl> <200911112031.43685.mel.flynn+fbsd.current@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:31:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200911112031.43685.mel.flynn+fbsd.current@mailing.thruhere.net> (Mel Flynn's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:43 +0100") Message-ID: <86fx8kolak.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Ed Schouten , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Final call for testers: TERM=xterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:31:49 -0000 Mel Flynn writes: > I'm not in a position to test this at the moment, but does this mean > our console will now also "fold" paging/editor applications? I hate > this feature with a passion on linux and I've unable to find out how > to disable it, especially since the few linux machines I manage have > no termcap or terminfo database on the places they say they should be. The fact that FreeBSD doesn't do this is a bug. The purpose of /etc/termcap is to document the actual capabilities of the terminal, and saving and restoring the screen is one of xterm's capabilities, but somebody who didn't like it unilaterally decided to force their own personal preferences on everyone instead of tweaking their own shell configuration (export LESS=3D-X). DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no