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Date:      Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:43:39 +0200
From:      David DEMELIER <demelier.david@gmail.com>
To:        Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: New pkg-message[.in] guideline idea
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2010/6/24 Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:04 AM, David DEMELIER
> <demelier.david@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2010/6/24 Janne Snabb <snabb@epipe.com>:
>>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, David DEMELIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2010/6/23 Janne Snabb <snabb@epipe.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it completely useless and plainly stupid to edit the
>>>>> pkg-messages of all ports to include lots of equal signs for tty-base=
d
>>>>> formatting purposes.
>>>>
>>>> We can take a long time to do that (we don't have to do it quickly),
>>>> but it could be useful to standardize it for one reason :
>>>> You will see that it's a message from the port maintainer/submitter
>>>> and not from the program itself! Sometimes configure scripts stage say
>>>> some useless things to the user.
>>>
>>> You obviously did not get my point.
>>>
>>> I fully agree with you that displaying a line of equals signs on
>>> tty based interfaces to make the messages stand out from other crap
>>> when installing ports makes sense, but I STRONGLY oppose to the
>>> idea of putting this visual formatting in the actual message files.
>>> It is just not the right place to put it in.
>>>
>> I see, so maybe in the future you would like some tools that can print
>> the message, like a GTK+ dialog, QT dialog, or an other tool, if it's
>> your point I agree. I don't specially want a equal "=3D=3D" line, I woul=
d
>> just something consistent, why not : nothing ? Yes we can just print
>> the text without any visual characters, and the [future] tool will
>> print the message as it want.
>
> No, what he's saying is:
> =C2=A0- put the logic to print the separators into the appropriate bsd.*.=
mk file
> =C2=A0- remove all separators from all pkg-message* files
>
> That way, you can update the separators at any time by editing a
> single file, instead of editing 20,000+ pkg-message files. =C2=A0And, tha=
t
> way, future tools can override the separator set in the mk file.
>
> Leave the pkg-message files as unformatted text. =C2=A0Put the formatting
> into the mk file.
>
> Separate content from style.
>

Yes, that was I said, sorry if you did not understand well :-)

--=20
Demelier David



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