From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 1 17:50:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BA313BDF5 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46jRcp41cKz48HC for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 882BC13BDF4; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EEF13BDF3 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46jRcp1DDPz48HB; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id x91Ho8VP044792; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id x91Ho8NF044791; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201910011750.x91Ho8NF044791@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: PicoBSD Build Scripts In-Reply-To: To: Kyle Evans Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) CC: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46jRcp1DDPz48HB X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:50:19 -0000 > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:52 PM Kyle Evans wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > A PR[0] has recently surfaced pertaining to the PicoBSD build scripts > > (see: picobsd(8), ^/release/picobsd) and how they fail to produce > > usable output by default. Some further investigation revealed that the > > build script is actually pretty broken, and has to have been for at > > least a couple of years... see comment #2 on the referenced PR. > > > > Because of this and that it hasn't seen much active maintenance > > (mostly drive-by mechanical changes, from what I can tell) for years, > > I'd like to propose deprecation and removal of the PicoBSD build > > scripts. The bits at ^/release/picobsd/tinyware can likely be moved to > > the ^/tools hierarchy, as they might be independently useful. > > > > Specifically, I propose a soft deadline of October 31st for removal; > > if someone comes forward with patches or an interest in working on it, > > nothing will be removed at this time. I further propose a hard > > deadline of December 31st for removal without patches posted to > > address the various issue. I'll happily review any patches that come > > across my virtual desk. > > > > Thoughts/comments/concerns? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kyle Evans > > > > [0] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240506 > > Resending the above as a reminder; I've received zero response, so as > of now the PicoBSD build scripts will be deprecated/removed on October > 31st (~30 days from now). > > simple_httpd has been moved out of ^/release/picobsd/tinyware as it > was indicated that this is actually used, but I've heard no objections > to anything else. The rest of the tinyware will leave with the build > scripts unless there is interest in keeping them. > > Thanks, > Kyle Evans Please first commit a depreication notice, which you can do now, if someone invokes the PicoBSD build scripts it should emmit a warning that it is going away in 13, you can MFC that back to stable/12 and stable/11 to give folks a heads up, if you do that I have no objection for a axe cut of this code on Oct 31. Regards, -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org