From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 21:00:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C17106566B for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E5D8FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so2554244iad.13 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZoOtNYqOGJg7+tGOUIXOmFk4zmBq50qJZwDTj9QslRA=; b=E9n2CWTMYOCUyIPBNTCXqBIGufvZ4fEoK20WIAmOPjHY/bTg2q+VG2IdC+cDOiTWuE QBv8AnvM3zoPEdCAaK/6RURvXIptXYvDVWeHJFH+RaPBkSJtHyHQKbYr7QGFjfHzrssa bvpIhgy9v7YagNAnttFcr6AGLkmf9DtvmchQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.50.204 with SMTP id a12mr2522680ibg.58.1316120444094; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:00:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Xin LI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Matthias Andree , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:00:45 -0000 On 15 Sep 2011 21:28, "Xin LI" wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 15 Sep 2011 20:52, "Matthias Andree" wrote: > >> > >> Am 15.09.2011 21:36, schrieb =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski: > >> > >> > BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate when > >> > software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another thing > >> > portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are supposed > >> > to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of which - > >> > another good idea worth adopting. > >> > >> Few ports stop services when getting deinstalled/upgraded, so it may b= e > >> worth pinging the affected ports' maintainers about it. > > > > Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaemon > > line in pkg-plist facilitates that. > > While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY > VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system > with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole > process carefully and restart the daemon manually. > > As part of symmetry, I think a reasonable behavior should be at least, > if pkg_delete kills the daemon, pkg_add or make install should start > it, and the user can optionally disable this behavior. > Hm, for my todo list :) Chris