From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 09:57:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081D616A421 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:57:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcolz@stack.nl) Received: from mailhost.stack.nl (vaak.stack.nl [131.155.140.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FBF43D66 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcolz@stack.nl) Received: from hammer.stack.nl (hammer.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::153]) by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BCCA2FC3; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:57:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hammer.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 333) id 943DA6462; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:57:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:57:32 +0200 From: Marc Olzheim To: Alexey Yakimovich Message-ID: <20050721095732.GG52120@stack.nl> References: <1121917413.4895.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1121917413.4895.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD hammer.stack.nl 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-URL: http://www.stack.nl/~marcolz/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quality of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:57:34 -0000 --tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:43:33PM -0700, Alexey Yakimovich wrote: > My advice to FreeBSD release engineering team:=20 > - do more testing; > - have it tested with hardware what was published in "Hardware Notes"; > - do not release it for production if it is not in production quality; > - reread again what was written by yourself regarding 4.4 release > quality. > I wish to say more. >=20 > This mail was written because I like FreeBSD and I want to continue > using it. And wouldn't mind to wait longer for real production quality > releases instead of start using something else. And please, I know, it's > open source project. >=20 > Best regards, > Real FreeBSD fan Thank you for expressing my exact same sentiments. I'm still a huge FreeBSD fan and switching to anything else (well, perhaps DragonFly) seems out of the question, but my faith is being tested a lot lately. Having switched some of my companies production machines to 5.4, since it was (in my eyes falsely) called a 'production release', FreeBSD's reputation within the less technical parts of the company has taken a large dent. Luckily they know as well that there's still no comparison to FreeBSD 4.x; top of my ruptime looks like: up 1124+12:15, 1 user, load 2.14, 2.10, 2.02 up 1095+06:22, 11 users, load 2.01, 2.04, 2.02 up 1095+05:31, 5 users, load 2.38, 2.31, 2.24 up 1095+05:06, 2 users, load 1.07, 1.08, 1.01 up 1095+04:46, 0 users, load 1.09, 1.08, 1.01 up 1087+21:04, 1 user, load 1.01, 1.00, 1.00 but then again, I'd really like to use the new 5.x features in a stable environment... Marc also a Real FreeBSD fan :-) --tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFC33GMezjnobFOgrERAtgZAKCMwx2okw3EOzEnMphgZRCClmOB+wCfZIyD eRL58BECBh2u3/gCBzNQ+C0= =k+lR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH--