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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b53sm10920328qtc.65.2020.06.09.09.01.46 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 09 Jun 2020 09:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49hFHD5pGJz1gXm for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 12:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 12:01:36 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> <6a4f6a15-ec43-03f6-1a41-a109e445f026@anatoli.ws> <00225a04-237d-9051-9aea-12c192106a20@anatoli.ws> <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/ml4hrrkY0yu0BIT871xVF1E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hFHK5r1tz3fHC X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=qjqLiI9h; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.63 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.225.250:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.890]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.022]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.14)[0.143]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2b:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 16:01:50 -0000 --Sig_/ml4hrrkY0yu0BIT871xVF1E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:04:50 -0500, Valeri Galtsev commented: > [1]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2010/12/openbsd-code-= audit-uncovers-bugs-but-no-evidence-of-backdoor/ > [2]: https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-tech&m=3D129236621626462&w=3D2 > [3]: https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-tech&m=3D129296046123471 > [4]: https://www.csoonline.com/article/2136901/an-fbi-backdoor-in-openbsd= -.html > [5]: https://marc.info/?l=3Dopenbsd-tech&m=3D129237675106730&w=3D2 > [6]: https://www.itworld.com/article/2744922/openbsd-fbi-allegations-deni= ed-by-named-participants.html > [7]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D20489904 > [8]: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/12/did_the_fbi_pla.html Most of those URLs are +/- 10 years old. 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