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Date:      Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:39:46 -0700
From:      Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>
To:        Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
Subject:   Re: GPL, not freebsd should be rewritten based on microkernel architecture
Message-ID:  <20200421233946.752c8633@bigus.dream-tech.com>
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 02:13:49 -0400
Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:25 AM Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 12:08:06 -0400
> > Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote:  
> > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:52 AM Valeri Galtsev <
> > galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
> > > wrote:  
> > > > Kevin (and others),
> > > >
> > > > Please, stop feeding the troll.
> > > >
> > > > Other mail lists will kick him long time up the thread already. This
> > > > list is too kind, and is being abused due to that. Stop helping the  
> > list  
> > > > being abused.  
> > > Sorry to ask a very naive question but since all I am doing is defending
> > > FreeBSD's choice of licenses and explaining (IMO) why it is right [to]  
> > make me  
> > > a troll?  
> > This is a common tactic by someone who disagrees with you but cannot pierce
> > your arguments and/or convince you of your wrongness. The goal is to get
> > the
> > list to perceive you as "abusive" (by some arbitrary definition of abusive)
> > and hence this person "wins" by removing your ability to debate.
> >
> > My advice is to ignore it and them.
>
> You might not of wanted to defend me now you will be labeled a troll by
> association.   

I was neither defending nor attacking. As to labels, these are meaningless to
me.  I certainly am not going to change my behavior to satisfy someone else's
arbitrary sensibilities. 

Ultimately, this forum's debates are just like every other forum's debates. The
same drama plays out. Because their assumptions are shouting too loudly, they
cannot hear anything other than their own viewpoint. This seems to be the
normal form of human discourse. 

> It sure would be nice there was some requirement on the list
> to state in your signature or something what your preferred OS (and
> license) is.   

That would be like stating your religion in a sea of zealots. It might be fun
for some, but it is ultimately futile.
-- 
Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org 
>>>> *The opinions expressed above are entirely my own* <<<<

It is only knowledge that will destroy bias.



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