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Date:      Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:36:02 -0700
From:      Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <571696B2.3070100@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <76177.1461097581@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <E1asbZj-0003Ra-Qs@rmm6prod02.runbox.com> <76093.1461096570@critter.freebsd.dk> <1461096962.1232.32.camel@freebsd.org> <76177.1461097581@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On 04/19/16 13:26, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> --------
> In message <1461096962.1232.32.camel@freebsd.org>, Ian Lepore writes:
>
>> Oh yeah, now I remember:  Because in freebsd, design is decided by a
>> race to commit rather than by discussion.
> No, that's not it.
>
> It is because code talks much louder than words.
>
This is kind of a silly argument here since the code change is trivial. 
There is a potentially large impact on the system that merits 
discussion. Moreover, there is a whole bunch of other code still needs 
to be written to make this workable in production that depends to some 
degree on what choices are made here: what does pkg show for these? How 
do upgrades work? The installer needs modifications to use pkg instead 
of tar. It's not clear what the migration path to/from a packaged system 
is, since the packaging is apparently optional.

If it would help, I am happy to generate a patch to make the discussion 
concrete.
-Nathan



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