From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 3 16:10:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79A31065670 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B738FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from age7.nber.org (age7.nber.org [66.251.72.84]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q03GASlj053847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:10:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (Unknown UID 1079@localhost) by age7.nber.org (8.13.8+Sun/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id q03GAd9D008797; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:10:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: age7.nber.org: Unknown UID 1079 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:10:39 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <4F030E00.5020806@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: References: <4F02A3CE.7020404@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120103071028.4964dd33@scorpio> <4F030E00.5020806@herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20120103 #6376679, check: 20120103 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Realtek RTL8191SEvB Linux driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:10:33 -0000 On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Da Rock wrote: > On 01/03/12 22:10, Jerry wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:44:30 +1000 >> Da Rock articulated: >> >>> On 01/03/12 11:15, Jeffrey McFadden wrote: > Jerry, there are so many things that are so wrong and so un-pc in this > statement that it is more than ridiculous. But we will ignore the > political/religious sentiments and try to stick to the technical. > > Winblows, Mac, Linux, BSD, others APIs are like cheese and chalk (although > Mac is a closer relative than any other). By your logic we should be getting > Winblows drivers to work on BSD. > Don't ndis(4) ndiscvt and ndisgen(8) essentially accomplish what the OP is requesting? See the handbook section 12.8.1.1: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html or the man page for ndiscvt: http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=8&topic=ndiscvt While doing the conversion looks a bit beyond what we would expect of an end-user, it does seem to offer a path for using hardware whose manufacturer does not support FreeBSD. Is there anything beyond licensing issues preventing such drivers from being included in the distribution, or made downloadable in FreeBSD form? Daniel Feenberg