From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 18 11:33:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4061B16A41A for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from crivens.kernel32.de (crivens.terrorteam.de [81.169.171.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D8713C467 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crivens.kernel32.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CE1B0290; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:10:56 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:10:56 +0100 From: Marian Hettwer To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling=20Sm=C3=83=C2=B8rgrav=20 , ?=@kernel32.de In-Reply-To: <86ve6wmgq4.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <86ve6wmgq4.fsf@ds4.des.no> Message-ID: <4a37b1e529bab094e2c50b7deca7df87@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: mh@kernel32.de User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , Kip Macy , Martin Cracauer , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 NVIDIA support in FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:33:04 -0000 On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:37:07 +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > "Sam Fourman Jr." writes: >> I wonder if having a petition signed by a bunch of people would help >> this along, because I believe that amd64 3D accel on nvidia, is life >> or death to PC-BSD in a year or so. > > What, exactly, do you think a petition would achieve? Can a petition > write code? Can a petition pay somebody to write code? Petitions may > work in a democracy, but neither nVidia nor FreeBSD is a democracy. > While this is true (by the way, what is FreeBSD? nVidia is a corporation, therefor not a democracy, but what is FreeBSD?), at least a petition could show how many users would like to have amd64 nvidia support for FreeBSD. These numbers could (!) be interesting for nvidia. That's what you usually call a "market need" in captilsm speak. Although I do have my doubts wether we could show nvidia that our need as that big that nvidia would think "hej, wow, what a huge market, let's get em" ;-) I believe a better way would be just asking nvidia "Hej, how much money do you need to deliver and probably maintain a amd64 version of your driver for FreeBSD". Instead of signing a petition, users could donate... ./Marian