From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Mar 22 06:31:28 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA05917 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:31:28 -0800 Received: from ns.dknet.dk (root@ns.dknet.dk [193.88.44.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA05908; Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:31:14 -0800 Received: from login.dknet.dk by ns.dknet.dk with SMTP id AA03245 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j); Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:27:53 +0100 Received: by login.dknet.dk (4.1/SMI-4.1DKnet00) id AA12175; Wed, 22 Mar 95 15:24:28 +0100 From: sos@login.dknet.dk (S|ren Schmidt) Message-Id: <9503221424.AA12175@login.dknet.dk> Subject: Re: Why IDE is bad To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 15:24:27 MET Cc: phk@ref.tfs.com, faq@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org, hasty@star-gate.com In-Reply-To: <199503221305.XAA14540@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from "Bruce Evans" at Mar 22, 95 11:05 pm X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >And that is the main thing on E-IDE, the drives are designed > >with enough onboard cache, that coretest etc. reports transfer > >rates close to the interface speed (13MB sec or so), but the > >drive cannot hold this speed when it has to read from the media. > > This is also good for reducing interrupt overhead. Hmm, most of the drives would intterupt once each sector anyway even when doing DMA, so there is really nothing gained... > >And here is the catch, in that most el cheapo IDE drives has > >inferior drive mechanics (hey they are cheap), and then some > >fancy cache/interface electronics to make up for outdated > >hardware.... > > I expect better IDE drives would have been avaiable if the > interface had supported them. Actually I think not, the IDE thing is about making CHEAP disks for the average PC user. It is much better advertising to have a 500MB drive than a 300MB drive, who cares about performance ??? So we will get bigger/cheaper IDE drives, sure, but "better" nah, that doesn't sell hardware to Joe Random User.... We in the *nix world are very atypical PC users, who CARES about performance, but we will also have to pay the price for it. As a vice man once said "there is no such thing as a free lunch"... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org | sos@login.dknet.dk) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time ..