Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:26:46 +1000 From: "Young" <young@richardson.apana.org.au> To: <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org> Subject: Where to get assistance ?? Message-ID: <00c601beeea1$486868a0$857e03cb@jdy>
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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this stuff or not, but already tried in the questions list and haven't been able to get the answers I need there. I appreciate the attempts a few people have made, but most of the people who have tried to help have been way over my head and only confuse me further than I already am. If anyone can suggest a more suitable place to post stuff like this so I can get to the bottom of my setup problems I'd appreciate the feedback I guess this stuff is considered so trivial by many of the experts that they consider questions like these ones aren't even worth answering, but its sure giving me nightmares I have been working on the assumption that the problems are purely routing table related, but now believe the root of the problems is far more basic than that ..... as I understand it, normally a standalone internet connected machine doesn't need any sort of routing table in order to get ping, traceroute, http, ftp, irc, mail, news ICQ and whatever else working properly ..... so since none of those work it seems the problem is related to something in PPP rather than routing I've been trying unsuccessfully for days now to get a gateway/router box working. I'd like to be able to (eventually) get http, ftp, mail, news, irc, and hopefully ICQ access to the internet from boxes on the LAN running whatever operating system. I've read (but not understood much of) the Pedantic PPP Primer, the PPP MAN, the PPP FAQ, the BSD Habndbook & the latest O'Reilly "Network Administrators Guide", but I'm not getting anywhere fast I have a 8 IP addresses from 203.3.126.128 - 135, subnet 255.255.255.248 My "resolv.conf" file lists both nameservers domain.apana.org.au nameserver 203.3.126.1 nameserver 203.3.126.3 My "Routing Table" default 203.3.126.128 UGSc 0 0 fxp0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 6 lo0 203.3.126.128 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: UHLWb 1 0 fxp0 => 203.3.126.128/29 link#1 UC 0 1 fxp0 203.3.126.129 203.3.126.130 UGHS 1 10710 fxp0 203.3.126.130 0:a0:c9:21:12:48: UHLW 1 10724 lo0 Due to my lack of experience, simplicity of configuration is ESSENTIAL, so its probably best to avoid potentially tricky stuff like masquerading or the like. The phone system in Australia is a bit unusual, we get untimed local calls, but pay up to 25c for each local one ..... consequently its desirable for those who have a permanent dialup connection to keep it up permanently. Dial on demand is NOT a good thing here like it is in US with "free" local phone calls. Cable connections are virtually unknown in private homes here, due to the pricing policy of the dominant carrier. 203.3.126.129 is used for dialup modem interface, and 203.3.126.130 for the NIC in the local gateway box At the server end, there are two DNS boxes, 203.3.126.1 & 203.3.126.3, and a http proxy at 203.3.126.3 port 3128 I believe the correct IP address for remote gateway is 203.3.126.1 Neither PAP or CHAP are used, only the prompts for login & password, although dialling can be automated in Win9x with a script. I can dial up manually, using "ppp", "term", ATDT<phone_number>, but can't understand how to even begin preparing a chat script, so any sort of automatic dialling is out of the question for the immediate future. I have a local hosts file setup on the gateway box, and can successfully ping other boxes on the LAN by either name or IP address. Initially I could not get a response from the local gateway box modem interface (203.3.126.129), so I put a line in /etc/rc.conf "route add 203.3.126.128 203.3.126.130" and now can get a response, although its rather weird 36 bytes from oracle.apana.org.au (203.3.126.130): Time to live exceeded .... then a couple lines of other strange stuff. Maybe this is just due to the fact that both the 203.3.126.129 & 203.3.126.130 interfaces are in the same box or something Once connected I can ping the first of the two DNS numbers (and get a response) but can't get a response from any other site. Tried traceroute to known domains and (and numerical addresses) but the only two that respond are bryden.apana.org.au / 203.3.126.129 (the local PPP interface) & gargoyle.apana.org.au / 203.3.126.1 (the remote PPP interface) I've tried starting lynx but only response I can get out of it is "startfile not found" regardless of what I try to make it do. One of many areas in which I'm a bit uncertain is the dialog box for ethernet configuration when installing FreeBSD. Among other things, it asks for details of local IP address, subnet mask, whether or not the box is a gateway, and something about address of remote gateway. I've always put the first of the two DNS numbers here as I have been led to believe thats the correct thing, although I've never had to enter that in any Windows box and I've setup hundreds of them. Given that my local ppp interface always uses the same number, should I use something other than 203.3.126.1 for that ? Another area of concern is the ppp.conf file ...... I'm 99% confused about most of it .... reading the PPP MAN only makes me more confused every time I read it. If anyone has a dialup internet account and the type of login that prompts for login & password, I'd really appreciate a copy of their ppp.conf file as it might be a lot more help than the documentation has been. A lesser (but still annoying problem) is some kind of timeout that disconnects the line, apparently due to no data moving. What do I need to do to keep the line up permanently even if nothing happens for hours. I might add here that I pay for a dedicated connection, its my line & my modem both ends, so its not as if I am "hogging" a common line. I've had a suggestion about using something called a "shell script' but I wouldn't recognize one of them even if one tripped over me :( ..... where does a newbie go to read about stuff like this in pre-school language ?? 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