From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 08:28:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42BF0F7C; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com (mail-lb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C0F92F53; Mon, 19 May 2014 08:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z11so3501083lbi.41 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 01:28:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1Tmha219LeMy5LWAtFXffnVAo5AbCR9GJ5619M3SP18=; b=IDMpIri30Bk27cLU5VDHMPaq7Qvl6WnZ1Wy9jKcAvZLPkjRFhY3hiv/rG5NJrWwlM8 Rxj8gq4QG9y5eMtpna0kt4ukkH1I8eruyhaeJyVLMjRNskMisKZOSK4ricf0OMBIjS8P Jrvk6jqOsjQeqSGwB9z3PMyV4Y6oStPXmVo2bWBOizP1ehxnPMg3sO1SKLCvoDgcyBpX L3TVJYAOebEnaVCr7ZE1M6niO9X0X0ZSqOQhyrAUQC+IDgUFwrI7vWG1PBvrEZmEW7PO hl5J2v403GicEFTaCT7bZs/B4SuX3J/EHFEY5MdYYMhY2WNrUaccIOABql3mPguRsWQA +ajw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.50.241 with SMTP id f17mr19319881lbo.7.1400488103223; Mon, 19 May 2014 01:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rizzo.unipi@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.200.107 with HTTP; Mon, 19 May 2014 01:28:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201405181223.s4ICNTAf097378@fire.js.berklix.net> <20140518230242.GA28117@onelab2.iet.unipi.it> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 04:28:23 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wDtd_X2424Go0HQevaW5jZSgKPA Message-ID: Subject: Re: netmap and other discussions on freebsd-net: please be open minded. From: Luigi Rizzo To: Adrian Chadd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: FreeBSD Net X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 08:28:26 -0000 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi! > > Is there a netmap list that these questions (regardless of OS) could go t= o? > =E2=80=8Bno there isn't one. At the moment there isn't enough traffic to suggest that, and creating one is likely to generate traffic to both the specific list and freebsd-net. Note, the problem is not only for netmap: we have ipfw+dummynet which is already cross platform, and as we bring pieces of the kernel to userspace (see=E2=80=8B e.g. the various efforts related to bringing up the network stack) we lose the tight bind to the os. cheers luigi (context below) > On 18 May 2014 16:02, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > Folks, i have two requests for you: > > > > 1. please do not complain about questions on this list related > > to a core network-related FreeBSD subsystem (netmap, dummynet, > > netgraph, tcp stack...) even if they are concerned with ports > > to Linux or other OSes or to userspace. > > > > At least in principle, these topics _are_ relevant here precisely > > because they relate to code whose main home is in the FreeBSD > > source tree, and bugs or feature suggestions etc that may emerge > > will directly benefit FreeBSD. > > > > 2. on the other hand, it would be good if people could avoid questions > like > > "give me step by step instructions on how to install/run/use X". > > There are notes in README and Makefiles, something on the > > web pages, and quick web searches should point you to previous > > mailing list discussions on the same topic _before asking_. > > > > So in the specific case below i can understand a reply (perhaps a > > private one) saying "have you done your homework (read documentation, > > do a web search) ?", but "we only do FreeBSD here" does not sound > > right to me. > > > > cheers > > luigi > > > > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 02:23:29PM +0200, XXX wrote: > >> > I am using Fedora 18 with Intel 82599 NIC. > >> .............^^^^^^^^^ > >> > >> Ask on a Linux/Fedora list then. This is a FreeBSD list. > >> > >> > I am new to netmap and want to experiment with it in the above > environment. > >> > Can somebody please advise what is the easiest way to go about the > above > >> > (installation etc.) so that I can concentrate on writing the userspa= ce > >> > programs using netmap quickly. > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 -----------------------------------------+------------------------------- Prof. Luigi RIZZO, rizzo@iet.unipi.it . 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