From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 6 16:55:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF38552EBCC for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 16:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DXz205XPfz4qNW for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 16:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.137.160]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1DBC4E669; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 10:55:51 -0600 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: What are good mail hosts to use with FreeBSD mailing lists? From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 10:55:50 -0600 Cc: Scott Bennett via freebsd-questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <25de0d19-1bb6-610f-c0cb-ef7721086902@panix.com> <24606.3187.85211.65015@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <587ffb90-4041-7e96-f9f7-0f0ff8827587@yuripv.dev> To: Kurt Hackenberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DXz205XPfz4qNW X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.63 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.137.160:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[172.58.137.160:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.973]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 16:55:53 -0000 > On Feb 6, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: >=20 > On 2/6/21 5:14 AM, Yuri Pankov wrote: >=20 >>>> > Anyone got other suggestions? >>>> I hear good things about Fastmail. Haven't tried it myself. >>>=20 >>> My wife has had Fastmail mailbox for at least twenty years, and >>> has no complaints. As a mail _host_? Dunno. >> I'm using fastmail and do agree with "good things" and "no = complaints". It is paid service, but absolutely worth it IMO. >=20 >=20 > Reminder: Gmail keeps all mail forever, and reads it, ongoing, to = decide what advertisements Google's services will play at you. "Free" = isn't really free. I wish it were as benign as just advertisements. Less benign would be = analysis of the information and use it in political (=E2=80=9Celection=E2=80= =9D) play. One can think up even less benign use of everything. And as some wise man said: you do not need to recruit spies. Just roll = out =E2=80=9Cfree=E2=80=9D services, and information will float to you. I=E2=80=99m writing all this realizing that it will end up in huge = number of gmail accounts. As 80 or 90 % of all email does. Valeri