From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Sep 2 2:40:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3D14C0C for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11MTKY-0005wl-00; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:38:54 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Aaron Smith Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:35:59 MST." <19990901163559.A54796@gelatinous.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:38:54 +0200 Message-ID: <22862.936265134@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:35:59 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: > this strikes me as unecessary. anybody installing a new mta can create the > necessary users and name them appropriately. This argument would get sysinstall removed from the release -- you can do without it when you're installing FreeBSD. > port maintainers have already solved this problem (see the install > glue for the qmail port, which as has been mentioned creates _seven_ > users.) it is not particularly hard, and the existing solution does a > fine job. I don't think so. I think port maintainers have had to work around something. I'm proposing a solution. So far, I'm hearing lots of emotional arguments against it. > i have a feeling this "smtp" user would sit unused while people create > qmail-* users, a 'postfix' user, etc. Actually, not. The postfix and exim ports, at least, would be taught to use the new UID when it became available in STABLE. I'm pretty sure smail and others would follow suit. Remember, _we_ control the ports and can have packages install for whatever ID we please. > i'm a qmail user, i would end up ignoring this user if it were added, > and it will be equally useless to the large number of people who stick > with the bundled (superuser) sendmail. And you can't imagine a time when sendmail runs non-priveledged? I can understand that many people won't use the ID. That's not a reasonable argument against it. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message