From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 28 10:38:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD901065687; Fri, 28 May 2010 10:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF438FC0A; Fri, 28 May 2010 10:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb28 with SMTP id 28so882273wwb.13 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 03:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jMJK5J0B+tRI4k8d4+2TbbHQIgo36JJ4PeGXVq7Xmw4=; b=Wo1/jqUxihFRwk6bpCQNkhcXEtZ5WamZJ4CUOL+IaIXBA8nH88qPySJYGVgZt63BWE wQ3pe+Ck5crlLwpqmCgd3X2PA+JIMciUpK+EygvFL5TF9S1bhxAdbsczE/NtFG0zdTml kGn38xYbjCOsphyceiUi1noOQ0YAmwmgu60qE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lMfSh1I+bBuF/elKjV7qZZLD8XBBVRitAisOm/yoGzKgfEX21eEgCOoRF1FXdPCb9Y fn3WPALo5HPcGbclEzG/wpYn9ilcUBzu/m0JxSnl2B5krebeg3I8nFAnSKiEkiaKxAyF VNWHK8D8coTWw06O03QUOV0qIc2upx0tFl43U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.71 with SMTP id t49mr22999wee.19.1275041470393; Fri, 28 May 2010 03:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.45.143 with HTTP; Fri, 28 May 2010 03:11:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BFD19ED.2080303@FreeBSD.org> References: <1274876344.2444.28.camel@hp-laptop> <4BFD19ED.2080303@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:11:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: Matthias Andree Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port request X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:38:29 -0000 2010/5/26 Matthias Andree : > Am 26.05.2010 14:19, schrieb Jesse Smith: >> I was told that requests for new ports should be submitted here. There's >> one tool which I would like to see brought into the Ports system and >> that's Network Manager >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/NetworkManager) >> >> It's the only networking tool I've found so far which will properly >> handle my Novatel mobile modem and I would really like to be able to >> make use of the modem while running FreeBSD. > > Hi Jesse, > > Network Manager (NM) will just automate steps you can do with other means= , too. > It is not doing magic of any kind, and chances are your modem needs firmw= are > that is available for Linux but not for FreeBSD, but I know nothing about= your > Novatel device. > > Regarding a FreeBSD port: > > (a) NM needs major porting efforts, and is an open, non-trivial, project = of the > GNOME team, see > > (b) I personally find that NM is an abomination that - particularly on La= ptops - > causes more problems than it could possibly solve for me. > =C2=A0 =C2=A0I routinely deinstall NetworkManager from openSUSE, Fedora, = and Ubuntu Linux > distributions, because it frequently fails to configure WPA2-Enterprise w= ith > EAP-TLS or EAP-TTLS, fails to detect online state (making several applica= tions > start in offline mode or refuse to even attempt to connect), fails to con= figure > hidden 802.11 (WiFi/WLAN) networks, and causes other artifacts I don't ha= ve > without NM. > > I'd personally also say Network Manager needs upstream bugfixing much mor= e than > a port. Haven't tried Fedora 13 "Goddard" yet though. > I agree, personally I would prefer a wpa_supplicant / dhclient graphical user interface instead of the sucky NetworkManager. For the moment there is sysutils/wifimgr iirc but it's a quite unstable. wpa_supplicant does everything, scanning for access points automatically even you don't have X running, all WPA means of associations, it's just perfect. --=20 Demelier David