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Date:      Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Joshua Graff <gollum@ccrypt.net>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        <rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk>, <dfeustel@mindspring.com>, <karsten@rohrbach.de>, <sepotvin@videotron.ca>, <freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSO.4.32.0107261315480.24722-100000@hobbit.ccrypt.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010726124924.B96660@dragon.nuxi.com>

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You can serial console into the ipaq.
I don't know about a monitor you might be able
to use some kind of pcmcia vga card.

As for a keyboard, stowaway keyboard is very
usable, and currently works under linux on the
ipaq.

<gollum>

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Joshua Graff		gollum@ccrypt.* (.com, .net, .org)

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, David O'Brien wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 02:21:21PM +0100, Robert Swindells wrote:
> > I would suggest that at least two reference platforms are needed.
>
> I personally am not sure about that.  People may have an assumption that
> FreeBSD wants to do as Wind River does -- that is WRS natively supports
> every commercially available PowerPC or StrongARM board there is.  This
> includes non-CPU chipset support.  This is way beyond what FreeBSD can
> really do (IMHO).  What FreeBSD can do, is provide a distribution that
> runs on the selected FreeBSD selected reference HW.  Those wanting to use
> FreeBSD in some embedded application now have a set of bits to start
> from.
>
>
> > The Compaq iPAQ is very different to a Netwinder/CATS/DNARD class
> > machine since it uses the SA1110 rather than the SA110 + 21285.
>
> > If anyone has got one, the Intel IQ80310 board is another potential
> > target. Anyone developing new network or server products would use
> > the 80310 instead of the SA110.
>
> "if anyone has got one" is the problem.  I spoke with an Intel rep from
> their embedded division last night.  They were not able to recommend a
> reference board/machine from Intel to use for this because they really
> don't have a good offering.
>
>
> > The iPAQ is extremely developer-friendly IMHO. Compaq CRL do a very
> > good job of providing documentation and firmware for it. The same
> > firmware also supports the Jornada 720.
>
> I cannot easily put a real keyboard and monitor on an iPAQ can I?  Or use
> a serial console?
> The issue isn't necessarily how helpful the vendor is, but how easily I
> can turn the HW into something that resembles a development computer.
> I don't want to have to use graffiti to do toolchain development.
>
> The demos I've seen of the iPAQ you have to use the stylus rather than
> mouse.  I did see one very chinsey(sp?) keyboard solution for the iPAQ,
> but not the ability to use a real mouse, etc.
>
> --
> -- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
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