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Date:      Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:09:26 +0100 (CET)
From:      "Carsten Zimmermann" <cz@aegisnet.biz>
To:        java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FW: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java
Message-ID:  <2469.213.39.192.6.1105092566.squirrel@www.aegisnet.biz>
In-Reply-To: <41DE4504.5040300@ebs.gr>
References:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0501071006420.16858-100000@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <41DE4504.5040300@ebs.gr>

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Panagiotis Astithas sagte:

>> However, as another person said, freebsd users
>> only use the port and not the binary.
>> And taking into account the many areas of need in the rest of
>> the system in its current status (5-STABLE, CURRENT),
>> i think it would make sense to save the money that was supposed
>> to go to SUN, for funding development of other areas in the system.
>>
>> Most users are quite happy with jdk14 i suppose.
>
> Although I am one of those users happily using the jdk14 port, I can't
> say that I find the situation satisfying. When I am trying to pitch a
> Java solution on FreeBSD to a customer I have to ask them to have the
> jdk preinstalled for me, since I can't legally redistribute it. Clients
> who don't have an existing FreeBSD installation or don't care about the
> solution's underlying OS (which is why they usually pick Java in the
> first place), wonder why on earth they should not go with Linux instead.
>
<snip>

Hello -

to me, the point is the compatability certification Sun gives for a binary
distribution (or am I wrong here?). I agree that building a port for a
customer's admin that maybe eats 2 hours of paid worktime shouldn't be the
point.
But it is third party webhosters or software developers who are in great
need of a 100% compatible Java for _productive_ environments! You can't
offer a managed server (or whatever) based on FreeBSD for Java apps and I
wouldn't even think of letting my bought in business application run on a
"please-don't-use-the-jdk14-port-on-productive-servers" FreeBSD Java port.
I must admin I don't have a glimpse about what it costs to have Sun
distibute Java binaries but it is definately nessecary for FreeBSD to
become more professional.

Cheers,
Carsten

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