Date: 8 Jan 2001 20:11:54 MST From: Chris Hodapp <hodapp87@usa.net> To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Replying Message-ID: <20010109031155.19705.qmail@nwcst292.netaddress.usa.net>
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Thanks a lot, guys. You really answered my question well. I'm used to jun= ky responses from either computers or really stupid people who give me all t= he facts but the one I need. I'd like to run some form of Linux-based GUI on the old computer I have -= like I said, it's a 486DX-33, 12 mb RAM, and I have about 200 megs of space I = could use for an EXT2FS partition if that's what BSD runs in. The only thing is, I really don't know much about Linux operating systems= and I couldn't install a version of it on my own easily. I do know quite a bi= t about computers, just not in the area of Linux. So I'd need something tha= t would be able to install itself or that I could install very easily. I've= put up questions on forums asking what releases of Linux would run on that computer, and it seems that disk space is a bit limited for me if I run FreeBSD. Someone recommended Slackware 3.3 and told me that I had way mor= e than the requirements for it. I went to the site they told me, and it was= an FTP with a directory listing of all the files. I had no clue what to down= load, it was a jumbled mess of directory trees. So do you know of any Linux GUI= s that would run on that and leave me sufficient disk space for my own good= ? Someone said something about PicoBSD..... ----------------------------------------------------------------- On Sunday January 07, 2001 02:41 > What are the disk space requirements for the FreeBSD operating > system? I was unable to find that on the website. I was wondering if > it would run on a 486\33 MHz with 12 MB RAM, on a 200 MB or smaller > partition. ----------------------------------- It'll install and run. I'd start with a minimal install, and then add things as you need them. <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more informat= ion. -------------------- I once installed FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE on a 486 DX2-50 with 12 MB RAM and 2= 11MB IDE disk. If you want to use your 486 for NAT/IPFW, DNS etc. it will do t= he work quite well. The problem is the disk space: if you want to install XFree86, netscape, emacs, ghostscript/gv to use your 486 as a home pc the= n you'll need much more space. To give you an idea, on this workstation I h= ave the following packages: XFree86-3.3.6_4 XFree86-aoutlibs-3.3.3 Xaw3d-1.5 apache_fp-1.3.14 autoconf-2.13 automake-1.4 bash-2.04 boehm-gc-5.0a4 bzip2-1.0.1 cvsup-bin-16.1 docbook-1.2 docbook-241 docbook-3.0 docbook-3.1 docbook-4.0 docbook-4.1 docproj-1.1 dsssl-docbook-modular-1.60_1 emacs-20.7 fetchmail-5.6.1 gettext-0.10.35 ghostscript-6.01_1 glib-1.2.8 gmake-3.79.1 gtk-1.2.8 gv-3.5.8 html-4.01 icewm-1.0.4_1 imlib-1.9.8.1 iso8879-1986 ispell-3.1.20c jade-1.2.1 jpeg-6b libslang-1.4.2 libtool-1.3.4_1 libungif-4.1.0b1 linux-jdk-1.2.2 linux_base-6.1 linuxdoc-1.1 m4-1.4 mkcatalog-1.1 mod_php-4.0.4 mpeg_play-2.4 mutt-1.2.5 netscape-navigator-4.76 netscape-remote-1.0 netscape-wrapper-2000.07.07 patch-2.5 png-1.0.8_1 popt-1.5 postgresql-7.0.3 procmail-3.15 qiv-1.5 qmail-1.03 rpm-3.0.6_4 serialmail-0.75 sgmlformat-1.7 tidy-20000804 tiff-3.5.5 ucspi-tcp-0.88 unix2dos-1.2 unzip-5.41 vilearn-1.0 w3m-0.1.11.p.23 xfstt-1.1_1 xpm-3.4k These packages plus the source of the system take up: df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 48M 24M 21M 53% / /dev/wd0s1e 1.8G 1020M 711M 59% /usr procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc That is 5 times the capacity of your disk. Hope this helps. Francesco Casadei -------------------------------------------- Everything at the office is big, but at home, I built a gateway for my LA= N so that the whole family could have simulaneous net access. My gateway box is 486 DX50 32Mb RAM 212 Mb HDD it runs like a dream Dont know if your 12 Mb RAM is enough, I have no experience in that area,= but try it unless someone else can advise) For your reference, when you carve up the disk, allow about 40 MB for / ,= 10 for /var , and the rest for /usr . Also you will want a swap in there as well, the standard is to allocate twice your amount of RAM as swap, again I have no experience with 12Mb RA= M, but I think I would be tempted to allocate more than 24Mb swap..... (say 50Mb.????) Someone may have more experience and give better advice, if not, give it = a try.......... After all, what have you got to lose ?????? The 486 stands a far better chance of flying on FreeBSD than is does on =2E....... Ahhhhh...... what's that other thing called ??????? (something= beginning with "M" ??????) Good luck Have fun Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- That would be close. You could certainly run it in that RAM and on = that processor, but 200MB would really limit you as to what you could = install. You may want to look into picobsd at http://people.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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