From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 25 00:12:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA18809 for current-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA18777 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id AAA27783; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:11:43 -0700 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id DAA27426; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:11:41 -0400 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA15749; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 03:11:41 -0400 Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) id OAA03669; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199707241934.OAA03669@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Cc: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (over)zealous mail bouncing References: <199707241601.LAA03086@compound.east.sun.com> <13063.869763579@time.cdrom.com> X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Jordan K. Hubbard on Thu, 24 July: : > I beg to differ. Most machines which may validly receive email do *not* : > have valid hostnames. Using the majority-minority rule, *you* lose. : > That's reality. : : That's sure news to me - every machine I've dealt with over the last : couple of years, absolutely without exception, has had a perfectly : valid hostname. What twisted kind of reality do you live in? ;-) I was using 'valid hostname' to mean a physically connected numeric IP home, since that appeared to be the significance of the context. Large numbers of mail nodes on bitnet or profs or uucp or fidonet or vines or netware or exchange or what-have-you don't have that. Admittedly the numbers are decreasing, but if you don't count PC's and Mac's using occasional dialup-IP as having valid hostnames (as in many cases they do not by even the most forgiving of definitions, and in the remainder do not by some more rigorous definition) I do believe that the majority of email nodes are without 'valid hostnames'.