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Date:      Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:11 -0600
From:      Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: results of ports re-engineering survey
Message-ID:  <6DB899FB04746B87CEC4292A@utd59514.utdallas.edu>
In-Reply-To: <475FAC1F.1010401@gmail.com>
References:  <475F7390.9090509@gmail.com> <1022BEDA-8641-4686-AB1A-3FE2D688F47F@FreeBSD.org> <475FAC1F.1010401@gmail.com>

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--On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 04:38:39 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman" 
<aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ......while I still want to gather more data to pin down the exact 
requirements

Don't you get it?  You're not GATHERING DATA.  You're eliciting responses 
from a TINY percentage of the people who use FreeBSD and ports and 
*extrapolating* from that tiny sample that 1) something is wrong with ports 
and 2) something actually needs to be done about it.

You haven't even BEGUN to gather data.  Yet you're already moving on to 
your "second phase"!

Furthermore, you take it upon yourself to insult the very people who 
actually *do* write the code and make this thing work while polluting this 
list (and several others as well) with stuff that *very few* (very few is 
defined as less than 1% of the readership which represents perhaps 1% of 
the total users of FreeBSD) people care about.

And you wonder why others' patience grows short?  Have you even noticed 
that the sharpest criticism of your "ideas" has all come from people with 
"@freebsd.org" in their email address?  Do you know what it takes to get 
one of those?

Please, please, spare us all the pain.  Go write some code.  Submit a PR. 
Then argue the validity of your code on the developer's list.

You're already in my killfile.  I'm about to put you in /dev/null.

-- 
Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/




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