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Date:      Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:44:06 -0500
From:      "Stephen A. Derdau" <sderdau@ne.mediaone.net>
To:        Patrick Seal <patseal@hyperhost.net>
Cc:        pat.groce@state.sd.us, FBSDQ <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help
Message-ID:  <364737F6.1C94D444@ne.mediaone.net>
References:  <000001be0c07$fb4107c0$0200a8c0@asus.hyperhost.net>

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One thing I just noticed.  Patseal's page comes up fast
I went to www.state.sd.us and it takes forever just to load.
I have a cable access modem also..
Maybe Patrick may want to give a few pointers on how to design
a functional website to www.state.sd.us.
;-)

Patrick Seal wrote:
> 
> I'm only 15 years old and have 3 FreeBSD systems up and running on a
> small lan. I've had no problem not solved by the list.  If you would
> actually *READ* all the information out their,(including the readme
> that COMES with 3.0) it would tell you not to use any NON STABLE
> version for production systems.  My Windows systems crash multiple
> times a day and bite more that you do.
> 
> Have a nice M$ day :)
> 
> Patrick Seal
> patseal@hyperhost.net
> 
> Hyperhost
> Web Hosting and Design
> http://www.hyperhost.net
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
> > pat.groce@state.sd.us
> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:30 PM
> > To: jlemon@americantv.com; pat.groce@state.sd.us
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help
> >
> >
> > I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i
> > download boot.flp and
> > fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got.
> > DON'T BLAME ME, I
> > DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN
> > INSTALL. Why didn't the
> > web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0?
> >
> > The web page at
> > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all
> > sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues!
> >
> > If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S
> > fault! Why can't a
> > fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of
> > disk space? Not
> > my fault. It should have configured the partitions
> > correctly from the first
> > place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system
> > having problems?
> >
> > ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A
> > MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO
> > SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM
> > CODE COULD EVER
> > GET IT WORKING.
> >
> > This os is not for the business world!
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan Lemon [mailto:jlemon@americantv.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:27 AM
> > To: pat.groce@state.sd.us
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help
> >
> >
> > On Nov 11, 1998 at 10:01:11AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote:
> > > We had been running freebsd for 4 years to handle our
> > internet email. Last
> > > week the hard drive crashed on the system. I had a tape backup of
> > important
> > > files so i reinstalled using the new freebsd 3.0 version.
> >
> > Let me get this straight; You had a system crash, so instead of
> > re-installing a known good system, you upgrade a production system
> > to the bleeding edge (3.0) without any prior testing?
> >
> > Honestly, this was a mistake, and the version that should have
> > been installed was installed was 2.2.7.
> >
> >
> > > cryptic errors. Sendmail keeps giving me an error:
> > > sendmail[131]: NOQUEUE: low on space (have 0, SMTP-DAEMON
> > needs 101 in
> > > /var/spool/mqueue)
> >
> > So, sendmail gives you an error message saying that it is out of
> > disk space, and you blame it on sendmail?  No offense, but it
> > sounds to me like the system isn't configured correctly.
> >
> >
> > > To hell with FreeBSD. We are replacing all of the systems
> > with NT versions
> > > of sendmail. And it works great! I neat little GUI makes
> > sendmail and the
> > > Exchange listservs easy to manage.The software may cost
> > more, but in terms
> > > of staff time, we're saving thousands, not to mention all
> > the frustration.
> > >
> > > I read all the news on how unix is going to give
> > microsoft a run for the
> > > operating system market. I don't believe it for a second.
> >
> > You are welcome to your opinion.  If NT works better for you,
> > then by all means, use it.
> >
> > FreeBSD is powerful, and can do anything that you want it to do.
> > However, it setting it up and maintaining it does require more
> > knowledge on the administrator's part than NT.  In return, it
> > can provide "years of trouble-free operation"(tm).
> >
> > You did note that FreeBSD handled your email for 4 years before a
> > harddrive crash.  Please feel free to give us a summary in 4 years
> > from now of how well NT behaves in doing the same task.
> > --
> > Jonathan
> >
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