From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 9 10:45:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05583 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:45:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05577 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sderdau@ne.mediaone.net) Received: from ne.mediaone.net (sderdau.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.122.19]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22596; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:44:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364737F6.1C94D444@ne.mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:44:06 -0500 From: "Stephen A. Derdau" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Seal CC: pat.groce@state.sd.us, FBSDQ Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help References: <000001be0c07$fb4107c0$0200a8c0@asus.hyperhost.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One thing I just noticed. Patseal's page comes up fast I went to www.state.sd.us and it takes forever just to load. I have a cable access modem also.. Maybe Patrick may want to give a few pointers on how to design a functional website to www.state.sd.us. ;-) Patrick Seal wrote: > > I'm only 15 years old and have 3 FreeBSD systems up and running on a > small lan. I've had no problem not solved by the list. If you would > actually *READ* all the information out their,(including the readme > that COMES with 3.0) it would tell you not to use any NON STABLE > version for production systems. My Windows systems crash multiple > times a day and bite more that you do. > > Have a nice M$ day :) > > Patrick Seal > patseal@hyperhost.net > > Hyperhost > Web Hosting and Design > http://www.hyperhost.net > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > pat.groce@state.sd.us > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:30 PM > > To: jlemon@americantv.com; pat.groce@state.sd.us > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help > > > > > > I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i > > download boot.flp and > > fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got. > > DON'T BLAME ME, I > > DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN > > INSTALL. Why didn't the > > web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0? > > > > The web page at > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all > > sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues! > > > > If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S > > fault! Why can't a > > fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of > > disk space? Not > > my fault. It should have configured the partitions > > correctly from the first > > place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system > > having problems? > > > > ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A > > MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO > > SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM > > CODE COULD EVER > > GET IT WORKING. > > > > This os is not for the business world! > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jonathan Lemon [mailto:jlemon@americantv.com] > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:27 AM > > To: pat.groce@state.sd.us > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help > > > > > > On Nov 11, 1998 at 10:01:11AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > > > We had been running freebsd for 4 years to handle our > > internet email. Last > > > week the hard drive crashed on the system. I had a tape backup of > > important > > > files so i reinstalled using the new freebsd 3.0 version. > > > > Let me get this straight; You had a system crash, so instead of > > re-installing a known good system, you upgrade a production system > > to the bleeding edge (3.0) without any prior testing? > > > > Honestly, this was a mistake, and the version that should have > > been installed was installed was 2.2.7. > > > > > > > cryptic errors. Sendmail keeps giving me an error: > > > sendmail[131]: NOQUEUE: low on space (have 0, SMTP-DAEMON > > needs 101 in > > > /var/spool/mqueue) > > > > So, sendmail gives you an error message saying that it is out of > > disk space, and you blame it on sendmail? No offense, but it > > sounds to me like the system isn't configured correctly. > > > > > > > To hell with FreeBSD. We are replacing all of the systems > > with NT versions > > > of sendmail. And it works great! I neat little GUI makes > > sendmail and the > > > Exchange listservs easy to manage.The software may cost > > more, but in terms > > > of staff time, we're saving thousands, not to mention all > > the frustration. > > > > > > I read all the news on how unix is going to give > > microsoft a run for the > > > operating system market. I don't believe it for a second. > > > > You are welcome to your opinion. If NT works better for you, > > then by all means, use it. > > > > FreeBSD is powerful, and can do anything that you want it to do. > > However, it setting it up and maintaining it does require more > > knowledge on the administrator's part than NT. In return, it > > can provide "years of trouble-free operation"(tm). > > > > You did note that FreeBSD handled your email for 4 years before a > > harddrive crash. Please feel free to give us a summary in 4 years > > from now of how well NT behaves in doing the same task. > > -- > > Jonathan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- When you find out the answer it's always something you thought you knew :-) Answers here http://www.freeBSD.org/search Happily Running! FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Fri Oct 9 19:54:29 EDT 1998 sderdau@SDERDAU.ne.mediaone.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message