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Date:      Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:43:19 +0100
From:      Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
To:        William B <william@firstyear.id.au>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way
Message-ID:  <20150108124319.15349b9c.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 20:06:31 +1030, William B wrote:
> Both approaches do not work as mate keyboard takes over and changes the layout
> regardless of what you set in xorg.conf, but Mate keyboard "forgets" to set
> the layout to what the user has configured. I need some time to debug it 
> though work allowing.

Yes, that's actually really a massive usability problem
when a desktop environment "captures" a system setting
and doesn't implement the substitute properly...



> Not that I am aware of: HAL is a depedancy of Xorg, not MATE.

It's not just X. Many desktop environments and their
components did require HAL as a dependency. Of course
it was possible to build X without HAL support and then
compile all other programs without HAL support. But
having this situation as the default for binary packages
really is an improvement. I just feared that Mate would
include something that still requires HAL...



> According to the
> docs, and what I have checked, the "current" version of Xorg in pkg is not built
> with hal support, so it's not needed.

Great! Finally someone took the garbage out. ;-)




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...



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