From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 17:47:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A96D8B1; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.feld.me (mail.feld.me [66.170.3.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.feld.me", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E45C82CF8; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.feld.me (mail.feld.me [66.170.3.6]); by mail.feld.me (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4ac6800b; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:47:06 -0500 (CDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=feld.me; h=mime-version :content-type:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :message-id:sender; s=blargle2; bh=wvjYUU7HgSDlgZc3wI4LC1SkUww=; b= Xt3aEETMHcVb4bQl9R671PBOT+d1rncQupaY6fteFjCip7NPo7eXOo1JzEJfJfSS zBN7Xe+ldeNntL5mPGICXpD+cJ3oyJEyjNQmEYHtbyqj97k+6uGQsiwjphQNu/G4 /ygwOxRLc4HypRPBu/E6UxC49hgE4yt0Yfq2XDOUyT9F/IC+dhbxrkqtnNFCNw6/ 4a7DF9EFj1p1JqvEBjuGkLm18h9lsYxZw/o0Q58xX4xFuZcgrRZEhB6jbQKfMrPi Ao/o2sLvpWPrXg/y2pma2P7IpcGjYOS57AXR6JjNjVGddvPNyvivfCrYpeF0wK1w KSDDBc/XSeB321UrayHtqQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=feld.me; h=mime-version :content-type:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :message-id:sender; q=dns; s=blargle2; b=RPsm1mOKCzB8YHKCppdZjqJ N/lOYh9a9dQG1iTpt/92iJygxBKretjZc8GM8aaBE8UNls8Rjd9kiwFSqup0EJ2d i7ItskvOlk8pp40Qyy2uFmGTd/n43cbTC4tgnqBRw1XwOZ67vLeez9e5IbrZ/mk5 FtcfWFOgfy9MG+lPj+aeXADyham3MvdxM+a/ERRyU8DoZ6PbiQf9uQmCMvEQiTbg CwbC00SajGL9peiep5NHm8h9BnMNgw9GSVh7jZBr5XwhdEwLfBPiOS91XseWghGh TKccA+fQwnVPzW9CfcMQ9fVB4z9iub1Ij1BUTN5JDLfw+38JAMzn7rQrdjYgHAg= = Received: from mail.feld.me (mail.feld.me [66.170.3.6]); by mail.feld.me (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b1a2aca3; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from feld@feld.me by mail.feld.me (Archiveopteryx 3.2.0) with esmtpa id 1401904025-3794-3791/5/10; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:47:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:47:04 -0500 From: Mark Felder To: John Kozubik Subject: Re: There is currently no usable release of FreeBSD. In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7b7737a473e012b0604e44d0154d6fd5@mail.feld.me> X-Sender: feld@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.1 Sender: feld@feld.me Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 17:47:18 -0000 On 2014-06-04 11:52, John Kozubik wrote: > freebsd.org website shows the following: > > Production: 10.0 > Legacy: 9.2, 8.4 > Upcoming: 9.3 > > You can't put an x.0 release into production (a bigotry that is *well > deserved* in light of 5.0 and 9.0) ... and 9.2 and 8.4 are legacy ... > and we all know that 9.3 is as far as the 9 branch is going to go, so > that's a dead end for any serious deployment. > Yes you can. You don't blindly update systems without knowing what you're getting into, so test test test. See also: Netflix's presentation from vBSDCon: "Dis-spelling the myth of the 'dot-oh' release". > Let's pretend for a moment that you are going to use FreeBSD for > something other than FreeBSD development. Let's pretend that you have > customers and shareholders and boardmembers and contracts and > regulators. I do. They're all on FreeBSD 10.0. > > Which version of FreeBSD would you use ? > 10.0. It's the best release FreeBSD has had in... years?