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On 5/3/06, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
> To summarize: at some point you do, indeed, have to ship something.  You
> have to choose a point where the least number of users will see regressio=
ns
> vs. the most number of users will see improvements.  (Not everyone uses
> quotas.)

FWIW, the snapshot bugs, particularly those seen during background
fscks, can affect every installation, although you're unlikely to see
them unless your server panics or loses power (or in some way requires
a fsck on boot).