From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 11:04:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A654C1065674 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f68.google.com (mail-gw0-f68.google.com [74.125.83.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507CB8FC14 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj19 with SMTP id 19so409737gwj.7 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.18.106 with SMTP id k70mr4221489yhk.203.1303988664471; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x72sm816435yhn.1.2011.04.28.04.04.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: freebsd-ports.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QKwK11rcrz2CG5L for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:04:20 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110428070420.4a4704c1@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20110427234226.GL38579@comcast.net> References: <4DB7B237.7000603@marino.st> <20110427075436.70ae18ac@seibercom.net> <19896.4396.161941.282904@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20110427093258.3966cfd2@seibercom.net> <20110427134836.GA30085@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20110427101257.414aaf8b@seibercom.net> <20110427223305.GA32276@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20110427191519.6388a158@seibercom.net> <20110427234226.GL38579@comcast.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: How are [MAINTAINER] patches handled and why aren't PRs FIFO? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:04:25 -0000 On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:42:26 -0700 Charlie Kester articulated: > On Wed 27 Apr 2011 at 16:15:19 PDT Jerry wrote: > > > >Following through on that logic, only the highest priority items > >would ever get done. Since there is a never ending list of things > >that have to be done at any given time, the lowest priority ones > >would never get any attention. > > Which is as it should be, if it's true that we're faced with > insufficient resources. I hope, no, I pray that one of your PR's falls into that category. I can't wait to see how long it takes your ass to get online bitching and moaning about the lack of attention given to your trivial submission. > The problem is that we don't have any objective way to determine > priorities. Instead we leave this up to the personal interests and > whims of the people involved -- maintainers AND committers. If you had actually been paying attention rather than cherry picking assignments you would have noticed that this thread was about implementing a more effective protocol for handling submissions. The axiomatic statement, "Lead, follow, or get out of the way." by Thomas Paine would seem apropos. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+ports@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ You can lead a horse to water, but you can't stop him from running off into the desert and dying of thirst.